In all likelihood, what do you think will happen?

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I have spent months hoping for a PV and then May revoking A50, and I still would like that to happen, but I’m starting to think now that she thinks there are too many people who just want Brexit no matter what!

I THINK that there will be an extension and then still no one will be able to agree on a plan. I can see a General Election being called soon as well-maybe with increased support for a centralist party?!

I wish I had your optimism, Bluntness. But as you seem to talk sense in general, I'd like to think you're right on this!

Well I don't normally, but on this it's public knowledge, the overwhelming majority of the house have stated very vehemently they won't permit no deal, so really if it gets to it on the 13th, then they will vote it down, it really is a given, no deal is not an option.

So it's between her deal and a delay, and I wouldn't guess at that, she might just get enough for her deal, but if she doesn't it will be a delay. The question is, do more MPs prefer her deal to a delay.,,and that's too close to call.....she might just do it.

But it isn't in our power to decide on a delay, so what they're voting for is moot unless the EU27 agree we can have it.

Just because the HoC doesn't want no deal, doesn't mean it won't happen.

I also think the WA will go through eventually - probably after an extension. I’ve started eating my stockpile.

Crash out. I hope I'm wrong but certain sections, the 'no deal, no problem!' 'Let's go WTO' , Leave means leave Nigel Farage and Wetherspoons guy crowd won't be happy until we do crash out. They see anything else as a 'betrayal' of their beloved Brexit and won't shut up about it.

I think we will remain in the EU.
May's WA is completely unacceptable to nearly everyone in the UK. It is taxation without representation basically. She is well aware of this as is Hammond.
She has now allowed an extension to happen instead of an automatic no deal. So an extension is inevitable. I expect that this will be followed by a referendum or a GE and we will remain. This is what May and Hammond wanted all along. There are just too many vested interests tangled up in the EU for Brexit to ever really have been a possibility. It's a shame.

But it isn't in our power to decide on a delay, so what they're voting for is moot unless the EU27 agree we can have it. Just because the HoC doesn't want no deal, doesn't mean it won't happen

This isn't technically correct. The Eu have already said they will grant a delay, so yes, it's now our decision if we take that or not. And yes if parliament doesn't want no deal, it absolutely means it won't happen. Teresa May has already confirmed she will act on the result of the vote. She can revoke at any time up until 11pm on the 29th and does not need eu agreement, or she can extend with their agreement, which they have already said they would grant.

this will be followed by a referendum or a GE and we will remain.

Don’t assume the result of a second referendum will be remain, there’s plenty of public support for no deal out there, way more than in parliament.

And a GE? Both main parties ran on a Brexit manifesto, no reason to think Labour will suddenly switch to a remain one.

May's WA is completely unacceptable to nearly everyone in the UK

This is also incorrect, the deal is actually a decent one. Don't get confused by the politics, actually look at the deal and see what critical businesses think of it.

And it's not taxation, don't get hung up on thr 39 billion either whilst forgetting about the financial benefit we get, which is about ten times this. We literally pay in a penny to get a pound back.

MPs on all sides are still playing games, sadly! I wonder if the "lets get one foot out of the door" mentality will overtake the ERG crowd and they will back May's deal. Labour I have now virtually lost hope and trust in, confirmed yesterday when they are now apparently backing a PV currently. I suspect there will be a delay because we simply can't get everything done by 29th March. Even after that, the problem remains the same IMO, if you don't want "no deal", vote for "deal".

I think a Crash Out, either on Mar 29th, after a short extension (although why the EU would agree to this with no purpose, I'm not sure) or after the end of the WA transition.

I've always thought so. It's what they want so they can strip the country's assets and worker protections/rights.

Best con ever because they've convinced all those who will be affected that they really want it to happen.

if you don't want "no deal", vote for "deal"

The Withdrawal Agreement isn't a deal. The deal would still have to be negotiated over two / ten years. It is just the start of a very long painful road.

Best explanation of WA (with facts)

news.sky.com/story/draft-brexit-agreement-in-detail-what-you-need-to-know-11554969

Trade deals and a whole host of other stuff from fishing to tariffs will be discussed during the long transition.

But Spain has hinted that they will veto an extension request. What I said IS technically correct as to the process. If all 27 remaining countries don't agree to an extension it won't happen. So I wouldn't be counting chickens to be honest.

Delay delay followed by some deal which is still unclear and unhelpful. Followed by a few years of working out what it all means. I don't think Brexit will be out of the headlines until 2025.

Extension and months of to-ing and fro-ing and uncertainty.

May's WA is completely unacceptable to nearly everyone in the UK

Whilst ‘completely unacceptable’ is probably too strong, I do agree that the WA doesn’t please either side.

It’s like a couple where one wants a child and the other doesn’t so as a compromise they get a dog.

Neither side has actually got what they wanted.

Not a lot.

I think there'll be an extension and more procrastination. Beyond that I really have no idea.

I do agree that the WA doesn’t please either side.

Of course it doesn't, we were never going to be better off out than in, so any deal, is always going to see us worse off. We simply don't have the same negotiating power on our own as we do when it's us and our own negotiating power and twenty six other countries standing side by side.

So no it doesn't please anyone. But it's what we voted for.

As I see it, the key problem, is that our MPs voted for us to have a referendum with no fear that they would have to act differently as a result as they thought the result was a foregone conclusion for Remain.

The problem we now have is that, with our MPs having voted to put the matter to the electorate, the electorate have since delivered their verdict of Leave.

Most of our MPs, however, are still convinced that they are right on the matter and despite having voted for a referendum, and voted to trigger article 50, they are unwilling to actually implement the result of the referendum.

I see no easy way out of this one. A majority MPs still think they are in the right and will seemingly use any mechanism they can to avoid Brexit happening. The highest risk outcome would seem to be that they keep bickering among themselves and we crash out on 29/03/2019.

The most likely outcome? Regrettably, I think our MPs will continue to act as they have done and the result will be either no Brexit at allm, because there will be no option that they can stomach or we'll end up with something they will call "Brexit" which isn't Brexit.

{I think a Crash Out, either on Mar 29th, after a short extension (although why the EU would agree to this with no purpose, I'm not sure) or after the end of the WA transition.
I've always thought so. It's what they want so they can strip the country's assets and worker protections/rights. }

I presume you are meaning the likes of the ERG who stand to make a lot of money from crashing out or even just leaving.
The EU didn't want the UK to leave (although the loss of Farage and a couple of other disruptive elements from the EP would be a significant plus).
Industry and cross country cooperation was good 3 years ago, but it is being trashed and the world as we knew it has changed, it will never be as good again.
There has been no real effort to deal with the causes of Brexit dissatisfaction (lack of funding and focus in the UK outside London and SE) and whatever else happens there will be another year or two of arguments and wrangling over this, whilst the pot of money available to achieve it has been squandered on Brexit preparations.

I did mean the likes of the ERG, but at this point, I also seriously question the motives of Theresa May herself.

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Extension. Then an extension to the extension. Then a Tory palace coup when May asks for more time, general chaos and a caretaker govt of odds and sods who do a deal for the Full Norwegian.*
I do hope you're right.
This is what the majority wanted apparently according to these people:

theconversation.com/british-public-open-to-compromise-on-brexit-deal-new-research-finds-80985

as somebody who reads the threads
follows the news
reads the analysis articles ...

fuck knows

Extension and then a general election. I don't believe we will ever leave the EU. There may be another referendum by which time (they had enough time by now surely) the remain team will have hard facts spelling out exactly what leaving the EU will result in. If after all we've been through the result is again leave then the whole fiasco will start all over again.