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Westminstenders: Oh Look is that a fire in the Italian Capital?

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RedToothBrush · 14/02/2019 21:20

Next stop: 27th Feb.

Where we will apparently have Cooper-Boles II which apparently will pass but still assumes that
a) the EU will grant us an extension despite our fuckwittery
b) that it will prevent accidental no deal, which it doesn't
c) glosses over the minor point that the only way to 100% prevent no deal is to say you'll revoke if everything else fails

Meanwhile in reality we leave in law on 29th March, despite the rest of the law having zero chance of being ready in time. Withdrawal Agreement and No Deal alike.

All that is actually happening is the Tories and Labour fighting amongst themselves. Corbyn is still pretending that Brexit isn't really that important and hoping it will just go away. May is still trying to compromise with the ERG - whom if you paying attention 18 months ago were obviously were never going to compromise on anything - cos they are fuckwitted swivel eyed loons.

Meanwhile the entire country has no other alternative but to assume no deal and act accordingly.

A deal on the 21st March (as is the planned date of the Meaningful Vote) is simply too late for planners. For them no deal has already happened even if it does never come to pass.

The strategy of brinkmanship has destroyed us. We just don't know it yet.

A Split in the Tory and Labour parties may well make matters even worse going forward with further political polarisation.

Where next for Brexit?

Who knows and does it even matter now? The damage is irreversible and will take at least a generation to heal wounds. Economically it may never be recoverable.

FUKD.

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borntobequiet · 18/02/2019 08:46

Anyone who keeps a tarantula on his desk to intimidate people is still 13 in his head.

BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 08:56

Red Yep, I've been banging on about pensioner expats and healthcare, because it's a potentially huge issue,
not just the human cost,
but the NHS potentially having 100s of 1000s of expensive pensioners suddenly added to their responsibilities - the system can't cope with the current numbers in the UK.

Even if we get a deal, I would never give up my private health insurance (valid worldwide except USA)
because this shambles has taught me that the UK govt can cause my rights to be removed even abroad.

SalrycLuxx · 18/02/2019 08:56

paralysed, polarised and falling apart, yet deluded about its global status.

Yep. That’s us. This is going to be painful.

BambooBoobam · 18/02/2019 08:58

Is the expected Labour split a good thing? Are they anti-brexit? Could they help revoke A50?

BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 08:58

tanith Pro-Brexit marches are so much smaller than pro-remain, but so often end up violent.

Very patriotic to attack & injure police officers Hmm

BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 09:02

The 2 Lonely's:
It's ridiculous how easy it is to affect UK votes and with the country so narrowly divided to actually change the results

We need an enquiry too into how MPs have been influenced by their financial interests, even by those paying them ridiculous sums for "directorships"
Such payments always happened, but not to change the future course of the country

Tanith · 18/02/2019 09:02

Whenever I see Gavin Williamson interviewed, I’m reminded of his squirming simpering after Richard Madeley dismissed him so adeptly.

prettybird · 18/02/2019 09:10

There were definitely bots operating during the Indyref. It just didn't get the publicity at the time but those of us that were politically engaged we were aware of them Sad

QueenieInFrance · 18/02/2019 09:10

@ProfPech

One of the most worrying features of Brexit is that the UK seems to have lost the capacity to manage complexity"

By former Irish ambassador to the EU, Britain and Italy

That’s what you get when you govern a country by sound bites.

BackInTime · 18/02/2019 09:13

I agree BigChoc, the extent that MPs have been bought by big businesses and lobbyists is truly astonishing. Am reminded of this brilliant congresswoman in the US putting so clearly

m.youtube.com/watch?v=AljakpXAh7c

DGRossetti · 18/02/2019 09:23

Morning.

Westminstenders: Oh Look is that a fire in the Italian Capital?
Littlespaces · 18/02/2019 09:32

This is desperate. Stupidity on stilts.

Listen to it all the way through.

67chevvyimpala · 18/02/2019 09:39

Morning

1tisILeClerc · 18/02/2019 09:43

Littlespaces
Great clip. I wish James would not be quite so quick at coming back at interviewees and talking over them as they need just a little more rope.

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 09:49

Kate Proctor @KateProctorES
What's behind the paper sheet being fiercely guarded on the lecturn? clearly covering a logo, a slogan. Appaz it's got 'ent' at the end according to eagle-eyed @PolhomeEditor. @LabourParty #laboursplitters

Lets try and make this really exciting before the inevitable disappointment...

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 09:52

John Crace @JohnJCrace
Am waiting for arrival of Labour breakaway group. Who is the lead singer who gets the stool?

fleetstreetfox @fleetstreetfox
Such Blairite chairs.

Emma Barnett @Emmabarnett
10am is where it’s at. Join me as always on @bbc5live - where we will have live coverage of this similarly timed event expected to be the start of #LabourSplit - those MPs expected to resign - selfless or selfish?

How can we all cope for the next ten minutes with the build up. Its so tense.

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67chevvyimpala · 18/02/2019 09:52

Whens the announcement?

Tbh even if it's a new party they are too late.

67chevvyimpala · 18/02/2019 09:53

Sorry xposts red

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 09:53

Nick Gutteridge @nick_gutteridge
Foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt in Brussels today: 'With vision on both sides we can find a way through that has the support of Parliament and also works for the EU. Good Friday Agreement is absolutely sacrosanct for the British Government. Our support for that is unconditional.'

Errrrrr vision? The Uk has been stumbling about like a drunk blind man who got lost leaving the bar.

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 10:04

Ross Kempsell @rosskempsell
Labour splitters are either called The Independent Group or The Independence Group

Theo Usherwood @theousherwood
Implies they will sit as independent MPs with close allegiances and will co-ordinate how they vote.

Ie: Not the formation of a new political party.

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 10:05

Hannah Al-Othman @HannahAlOthman
Just walked past one of Luciana Berger’s senior staffers at the #LabourSplit presser 👀 No MPs here yet

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 10:06

Rowena Kay @rowena_kay
Fun fact: not one single Tory MP has supported May's tactics throughout. Including May herself.

The only Tory to vote for her deal and against Brady is Ken Clarke. Who voted against triggering Art 50.

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 10:10

Theo Usherwood @theousherwood
Basically the ERG for centrist dads.

Chris Terry @CJTerry
Theresa May is the only British politician capable of turning up at a podium on time. Not sure whether that is positive or negative

Nope she's been late before too.

Ooooo we have a colour and a logo...
Its all Martin Bell.

If they turn up in white suits and sit on those stools I will wet myself though.

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 10:15

Statement

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 10:16

Kevin Schofield @PolhomeEditor
BREAKING: Chuka Umunna, Luciana Berger, Gavin Shuker, Mike Gapes, Chris Leslie, Angela Smith and Anne Coffey announce they have resigned from the Labour Party, will sit as independent group in Parliament.

Seven.

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