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Westministenders: A Special Place in Hell

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RedToothBrush · 07/02/2019 00:16

A quick start to a new thread (as I've not been paying attention this evening!).

May is looking to ditch the Malthouse Compromise. Cos its so rubbish.

The ERG look like they are splitting over it anyway.

Up to sixty Labour MPs could back the WA.

Half the ERG plus Labour Leave Rebels could be enough to get the WA over the line.

Donald Tusk, makes controversial comment by more or less stating the obvious.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3492426-Westministenders-Abbreviation
Guide to Brexit Abbreviations and Terms

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Bubastes · 07/02/2019 16:16

Suzanne Evans
@SuzanneEvans1
Very disappointed my mobile provider ⁦*@VodafoneUK⁩ refusing to rule out roaming charges after Brexit, saying it hopes ‘arrangements will be made’ to keep it free. If ⁦*@ThreeUK⁩ doesn’t need any ‘arrangements,’ why do you, Vodafone?

Typical stupid Kipper. I mean, honestly!

LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/02/2019 16:18

Ooh I like those links DG. Speculating about that is about as fruitful as speculating about the chaos!

Maybe he is sending messages that Brexit is a feminist issue? Or that TM is letting down Merkel (weirdly I seem to remember some weird Daily Express story about how the two of them were trying to take over the world because of their hand gestures in a photo?).

Or (for the Tempest) a coded message about the perils of having any kind of democracy with social media being the main campaigner?

icannotremember · 07/02/2019 16:19

Hmm, according to that pwned website the latest mumsnet breach hasn't affected me, but I was pwned in a myspace breach (I don't remember even having an account) years ago and something called onliner spambot last August. I change all my passwords regularly so I don't think I'm worried.

DGRossetti · 07/02/2019 16:20

Jung strikes again !!!!! Have just clicked on ...

www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/07/treaty_of_roam_no_deal_brexit_mobile_bill_shock/

The UK's Ministry of Fun* has introduced draft legislation enabling UK operators to charge roaming fees for calls and data inside the EU, should the UK crash out of the EU (and the larger EEA) next month.

Labour Tom Watson MP called it a "Tory Tourist Tax". But that doesn't mean it will happen. So will it?

(contd)

DarlingNikita · 07/02/2019 16:28

Place mat king.

I tend to think that Tusk was just poking fun/trolling. Because why should he not, at this stage and given the UK government (and "opposition's") behaviour regarding Brexit so far?

I say have a pop; go for your life Donald.

lonelyplanetmum · 07/02/2019 16:33

That Tusk ee meant a special place in Hull.

He was just trying out a Yorkshire accent for those people like DD (who represent Hull) and were part of the Brexit promotion team sans even a sketch plan regarding delivery.

(I'm allowed to say this by the way being from those parts originally.)

DGRossetti · 07/02/2019 16:36

All I know is the Tempest is about a ship that crashes onto the rocks (and was the oblique subject of Peter Greenaways more accessible "Prosperos Books" which if memory serves saw Sir John Gielgud kit-off Shock ....)

DGRossetti · 07/02/2019 16:37

That Tusk ee meant a special place in Hull.

Ah, birthplace of the late Mick Ronson ....

ElenadeClermont · 07/02/2019 16:43

DGR I guess they would be in the 8th circle of hell (fraud) as counsellors of fraud. (I looked it up.)

lonelyplanetmum · 07/02/2019 16:45

Yes wonder what Ziggy Stardust would make of all this.

Destiel · 07/02/2019 16:56

I wouldn't spend too long researching historical or literary examples...
They are just cunts.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/02/2019 17:07

Destiel Grin
I enjoyed this article. Think we've covered these topics with similar views!

PCPlumsTruncheon · 07/02/2019 17:10

www.express.co.uk/videos/5829705216001/Newsnight-R-E-M-s-Michael-Stipe-claims-Brexit-is-NOT-good

The leaversquealing man himself is definitely not a Brexiter

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 07/02/2019 17:11

Thanks Red

Trying to decide if I should respond to a friend’s Facebook post. Posted a screenshot of Tusk’s tweet and Verhofstadt’s response with just the word ‘tossers’. Then a load of his Beleaver friends weighed in with some depressingly predictable responses including this corker:

The man is making the sound of someone backed into a corner. If no deal happens and we make a success of Brexit, the EU will fail.

Now watch him walk towards us and negotiate...

Laugh? Cry? Rock silently in the corner? I have no idea how to respond to things now.

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RedToothBrush · 07/02/2019 17:15

It's slightly niggled me - it certainly wasn't an off-the-cuff remark so I'm intrigued about any other dimensions to it.

I took it from the word go as a way to give people a right old kick up the arse. Strangely last night Corbyn dropped a bollock and actually did something related to Brexshit.

The UK isn't getting measured diplomatic comments, and instead we've had god knows how many politicians rabbit on about WWII, warships off Gibralator and how the EU are evil, all he did was speak in an language and vocabulary that the UK might understand. What was it about Trump talking to North Korea like a dictator which they respect?

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prettybird · 07/02/2019 17:15

I'd just screenshot their posts and wait......Wink

Pointing out how deluded they were, with the evidence Revenge is a dish best served cold Grin

LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/02/2019 17:17

They don't seem to understand that eurosceptics have been saying it will fail for 20 years or more. It's because they've only just got "interested" in the EU, they don't understand the patience that is required to be a true hopeful eurosceptic yet... Smile

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RedToothBrush · 07/02/2019 17:18

Oh and the labour rebels are getting twitchy too.

Tusk spelling it out that they WILL No Deal and not save us because of our politicians is a coded message to those waivering over the WA to pull their finger out, stop hoping for a remain unicorn and get on with it.

This isn't something that is unhelpful to May. In fact it might put enough MPs to go for her deal.

We know that May is looking for ways for the EU to help her... and its in their interest for them too. Just not by dropping the backstop.

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DGRossetti · 07/02/2019 17:21

This isn't something that is unhelpful to May. In fact it might put enough MPs to go for her deal.

But does she really want the deal to pass ?

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RedToothBrush · 07/02/2019 17:23

Trying to decide if I should respond to a friend’s Facebook post. Posted a screenshot of Tusk’s tweet and Verhofstadt’s response with just the word ‘tossers’. Then a load of his Beleaver friends weighed in with some depressingly predictable responses including this corker

Verhofstadt is a well known EU troll. And your friend bit. Verhofstadt loves winding up Leavers. Your friend fell for it hook, line and sinker. Verhofstadt would just say 'mission accomplished!'

I think its hilarous. He knows exactly what will happen and how he will make people's head explode with rage. He plays them all.

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lonelyplanetmum · 07/02/2019 17:43

Trying to decide if I should respond to a friend’s Facebook post. Posted a screenshot of Tusk’s tweet and Verhofstadt’s response with just the word ‘tossers’. Then a load of his Beleaver friends weighed in with some depressingly predictable responses including this corker

Wind them up:
You could try a " Before Brexit we were the fifth strongest economy in the world. Does making a success of Brexit mean we will be 4th,3rd or 2nd?"

Or you could just say as TM has been asking the EU to come forward with new ideas to get HoC approval for the WA you have seen a suggestion that we could trial ( just a trial) a temporary EU takeover.This would involve a new UK Parliament jointly staffed by a panel of experienced Belgian, French,German etc politicians. Tusk or Vethofstadt could head it up and devise a plan whilst being shadowed or working jointly with some UK politicians too.

That'll stimulate them all.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/02/2019 17:47

imo Tusk wanted to send messages to 2 different groups.

  1. telling May & the cabinet in public how fed up he was with the EU being expected to find a Brexit that wouldn't split the Tory party

  2. telling Remainers to support the WA to avoid No Deal, because there is no chance of Remain now

BigChocFrenzy · 07/02/2019 17:51

There wasn't much publicity a while ago when the Swedish Foreign Minister said she would never forgive Brexiters

  • and she didn't qualify that to Brexiters without a plan
LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/02/2019 17:53

Louise well, he's right - there's no opposition or new thinking in our two main parties and those have both split into two camps over Brexit.