Westministenders: A Special Place in Hell

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A quick start to a new thread (as I've not been paying attention this evening!).

May is looking to ditch the Malthouse Compromise. Cos its so rubbish.

The ERG look like they are splitting over it anyway.

Up to sixty Labour MPs could back the WA.

Half the ERG plus Labour Leave Rebels could be enough to get the WA over the line.

Donald Tusk, makes controversial comment by more or less stating the obvious.

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As part of Brexit the UK is leaving Euratom, so this nuclear dump would not be subject to EU norms

Isn't there also a world nuclear agency, which the UK would have to be a member of ?

Maybe, as a result of Brexit, we should be known as the "New Kingdom", or "NK" for short. The rest of the world are unlikely to be able to tell the difference, really. Donald Trump won't for sure.

Motherof4dragons:
This is the third time this bloke has been in the audience and the third time he has been chosen to speak - he is a UKIP candidate who loves to take aim at the SNP.
Nice to see the BBC and their unbiased audience picking at it again.

BBC QuestionTime is just entertainment these days. It used to have some serious political discussion, but not any more. Perhaps this is why:

www.commonspace.scot/articles/10001/bbc-reprimands-question-time-producer-over-far-right-social-media-posts

Just so that people aren't misled by misinformation: Faslane is 25 miles, not 40 miles from the centre of Glasgow as the crow flies (shockingly, radiation doesn't travel by road ). It is only 5 miles from Helensburgh and and less than 12 miles from the start of the Greater Glasgow conurbation (as in, no gaps of countryside).

The metropolitan area of Glasgow has 1.7 million people. The whole of Devon has under 800,000 people. Not suggesting that the people of Devon are any less expendable though .

People can make their conclusions as to the political choices....

(and I'll not mention the nuclear convoys that go through the centre of Glasgow on a regular basis in the dead of night )

And Varadkar is meeting NI politicians today...and May is going to Dublin...

Other than a lack of funding and word has it the Tories are struggling with their usual donors, how about a MN political party ? There are plenty of women on here who would have the experience, expertise and intelligence to make excellent candidates.
I bet we could field someone in every constituency if we wanted to

DGR - it's already been suggested that the new name for the state in which we currently live and hopefully following Scottish independence should, after Brexit, be FUKD - the Formerly United Kingdom and its Dependencies.

Come to think of it, it could accurately be called FUKD now even before Scotland becomes independent.

So you don't want nuclear because of the waste.
You don't want coal because it is dirty and smelly.
You don't want solar or wind because it 'spoils the view'.
You might want gas but it has to be shipped in.
Insufficient running water available for hydro electric.
You want loads of electric cars but the electricity has to come from somewhere and the UK does not have enough generation capacity to actually recharge all the cars.
A lot of 'NO's being expressed. Where do you think it is going to come from?

Britain cannot impose its nuclear waste on Ireland.

Ireland is not a tissue whose purpose is to mop up the UK's wank emissions.

If NI is part of the Union of 4 countries it is fair game surely?
Geology doesn't do 'politics'.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-donald-tusk-theresa-may-hell-eu-boris-johnson-jeremy-hunt-the-sun-stalin-a8767871.html

So Donald Tusk is being absolutely outrageous when he says the promoters of Brexit had “no plan”.

The plan all along was for the first and then second negotiator to resign,
for both to oppose the deal they negotiated,
and the foreign secretary to resign,
followed by half the cabinet,

and for no one to have realised there would be a border with Ireland,
and votes to be lost by record amounts,
and for rehearsals for when 50,000 lorries are stuck in Kent
and businesses to stockpile toilet rolls and insulin,
and the government to be dependent on creationists,

and plans made for the evacuation of the Queen
until it could now be announced we’re in a customs union with The Jungle Book and all have to dance with bears,
or Britain has been reclassified as a beehive and Arlene Foster is our queen

Geology doesn't do 'politics'

Geography does.

And if your geology is on our geography, that's a whole lot of politics.

Mother - great minds

Does this help?

NI is not like the other 3 nations
and cannot be treated so ruthlessly as their populations

because we have a GFA with Ireland, which certainly would not agree to a waste dump near its borders, on a piece of its stolen territory that will eventually vote to reunite

This looks like a plan by the Tories to dump all their crap onto NI,
because they know NI will, probably within the next 2 decades, vote for a United Ireland

So it's dumping Britain's poisonous crap on a future foreign country

The Irish Border@BorderIrish 😂

The technological solution - beware of gits bearing geeks

BigChocFrenzy you've articulated exactly what I feel about the current state of the political parties. Having been a lifelong Liberal/Lib Dem supporter, I don't feel that I can vote for them any more. Their publicly declared attitude to feminists puts them beyond the pale. I also believe that their opposition to Brexit has in practice been subdued and low key. they've preferred to go their own way rather than try to form coalitions with other anti-Brexit MPs. Vince Cable is not a credible leader.

I would vote for a new centre left party very happily -and possibly even for a new centre right party. I just wish we had one!

Personally I'm massively happy with nuclear power. But no one asked me. (Including, sadly, BNFL when I applied for a post as part of my sandwich year. Still I had a thorough medical ).

{So it's dumping Britain's poisonous crap on a future foreign country}
The good folks in Workington have been told it's all perfectly safe, for decades,therefore it must be because the government wouldn't lie.
Shifting millions of tons of crap to China and India is a good idea too.
NI does not have sufficient power generation as it stands, hence the earlier plans to have the military with generators on ships in the event of a 'no deal'.
Rather than simply attacking my comments, where is the forward thinking about where power is going to come from in the future?

Calming myself with this.

Iceland has proposed a power interconnect, to make use of its plentiful hydroelectric and geothermal resources

....although, as it happens, I'm not totally against nuclear power either, while we continue to live our high-energy-usage lifestyles. I do however think that we need to be sensible about what we do with the waste - and putting it into a highly political and sensitive border zone is not being sensible

www.gov.uk/guidance/businesses-supplying-medicines-and-medical-devices-what-to-expect-on-day-one-of-a-no-deal-scenario?

Updated medicines info