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Fuck you Jeremy Corbyn

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MrsNathanDrake · 06/02/2019 23:40

That's all really.

Was still naively hoping the prospect of losing the under 25s vote may pull him back, but he's clearly far to far gone for that.

Have been a lifelong Labour voter and we have a fantastic Labour MP here. Still, I cannot see me ever voting for them again.

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Bubastes · 07/02/2019 10:58

What I don't understand is why Labour members don't rise up and get rid of him? Now must be as good a time as ever.

Because, Momentum. Labour has been taken over.

bellinisurge · 07/02/2019 10:59

I'm much older than you and I have lived through the Labour Party doing this to itself as an adult. And recovering itself back to the centre.

KissingInTheRain · 07/02/2019 11:07

bellini

Yes, but this is different. The far left has the vote within the party, has control of the key committees and has every intention of driving out sensible moderates (I see Chuka Umanna’s local party has been hijacked by the far left).

It’s over.

MonicaBellucci · 07/02/2019 11:08

He’s worse than the Tories. At least they are honest about not giving a shit

THIS. The "for the many, not the few" has got to be the biggest gaslighting pile of BS I've seen for a while.

bellinisurge · 07/02/2019 11:08

Agree @KissingInTheRain . It's simple. I won't vote Labour with this person as leader. I am old and have voted Labour all my life.

Eatmycheese · 07/02/2019 11:13

I agree @Rhubarb.
Not about rhubarb but Corbyn. Think that’s exactly what he wants.

WineCheeseSleep · 07/02/2019 11:28

I've remained a member of the Labour Party despite a lot of crap just so I can have a say in the next leadership election and try and vote him out. Absolutely no sign of one though, he seems immovable.

He's never been my cup of tea but I used to think he was basically a good person but the way he's gone against what the party overwhelmingly want has made me rethink that.

KissingInTheRain · 07/02/2019 11:50

...so I can have a say in the next leadership election and try and vote him out.

Even if Corbyn was replaced he’d be followed by another far left leader. There is no longer any mechanism for controlling the extreme left within the party. Labour is now a party of and for the far left and the damage cannot be undone.

There will be a lot of books written in thirty years time about the demise of Labour as a once great and relevant party. By then it will have been reduced to a tiny historical curiosity whose political assets will be nothing more than the right to use the name and ownership of copyright in the party logo.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/02/2019 11:56

controlling the extreme left within the party

The tiresome trope of extreme/hard left, Corbyn is quite a moderate social democrat but framed in this current political climate its no wonder the trope gained some legs

KissingInTheRain · 07/02/2019 12:12

Corbyn is quite a moderate social democrat

Let’s agree to disagree about that.

It’s more interesting that anyone should think contemporary political discussion misrepresents Corbyn and his fellow travellers. IMO he’s had a falsely created image and a falsely inflated following because of the organised online cheerleading (that’s not aimed at you by the way, but at the ‘Jez we can’ etc nonsense and the aggressive crowds on Twitter).

prettybird · 07/02/2019 12:20

A friend who was a member of the Labour Party (note the tense Wink) said that she was quite horrified at the way that Momentum and Corbynites were manipulating both local and national meetings/rallies. She stayed in for longer than she really wanted to, in the hope of changing things.

But now that she is actively campaigning for Scottish Independence (having been a No voter because of her support for the EU Confused), she felt she could no longer stay in the branch office Scottish Labour.

bellinisurge · 07/02/2019 12:26

The idea of Corbyn being a moderate social democrat is one of the funniest things I've read all day.

Fazackerley · 07/02/2019 12:43

Hilarious!

jasjas1973 · 07/02/2019 12:45

The problem with those complaining about JC is that Labour had a moderate leader in 2010 and lost, they had one in 2015 and had an even worse defeat.

Labour policy is very centralist and nothing like as radical as the Lab manifestos from the 70s, let alone those of the 40s and 50s.
If JC was really a communist, he would never have been elected time after time by his constituents.

We need to face facts, the UK is predominantly right wing, even ardent remainers on here voted Tory in 2015, causing this mess :(

Fazackerley · 07/02/2019 12:47

I've never liked him,but his "it has to fulfil our 5 criteria" sanctimonious bullshit has made me actively hate him. He's a weak man enjoying watching a strong woman fuck up and waiting to step in and take the praise. I used to vote Labour but I'm a proper centrist, loved Tony in the 90s

KissingInTheRain · 07/02/2019 13:24

jasjas

I have no doubt that David M, Yvette C, even Liz Kendall, would have won the last election for Labour. The reason Ed M lost in 2015 was because too many people thought he was an opportunist and, frankly, a bit of a nerd.

Labour did well despite Corbyn, not because of him.

Tony Blair won every GE he contested, hands down. I suppose you regard Blair as a Tory. I don’t.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/02/2019 13:30

The idea of Corbyn being a moderate social democrat is one of the funniest things I've read all day.

Can you point me to hard left things he promotes please bellinisurge, because if I'm wrong I'd hate to be misinformed

HerLadySheep · 07/02/2019 13:38

I have just written and resigned my Labour Party membership, I cannot be complicit in this shit show, I have sent the my resignation to my MP too, who has always been very good, sadly I will not be voting for him again. I feel totally unrepresented now by any party, the Lib-Dems have a dreadful policy regards gender.
I feel very sad that it has come to this.

jasjas1973 · 07/02/2019 15:05

KissingInTheRain

You've zero evidence anyone would have done better than JC..... who galvanised the younger voter.

The fact is the right wing media portrayed recent Labour leaders as opportunists/nerds/windbags/terrorists/insert new definition/ etc and we all go along with what they tell us... as you have just proven!

Should Starmer become leader, he would v soon have the Warbouys fiasco thrown back at him, Cooper would have Ed Balls thrown at her!!

The country had had years of Tory infighting and economic decline and along came a young bushy tailed Blair (whom i supported and never thought a Tory) and the Murdock media backed him!

His big mistake was letting power go to his head and backing a war mongering POTUS to the n'th degree.

Fazackerley · 07/02/2019 15:16

He galvanised the younger voter by going to Glasto CRINGE and promising to get rid of tuition fees
He's now reneged on that.

Bubastes · 07/02/2019 15:17

I really hate that White Stripes tune now.

jasjas1973 · 07/02/2019 15:36

Labour will reintroduce maintenance grants for university students, and we will abolish university tuition fees

BUT people still follow the right wing media narrative that keeps the lid on Labour policies, so they report only that Labour have rowed back on that they would cancel previous student debt.

KissingInTheRain · 07/02/2019 15:54

You've zero evidence anyone would have done better than JC..... who galvanised the younger voter.

True, it’s an opinion. But then there’s zero evidence that Corbyn galvanised younger voters any more than any other leader would have done.

Blaming the media for everything is a cop out. The problems that Corbyn’s faced in reporting of him are all self-inflicted.

TeacupDrama · 07/02/2019 16:14

he won't be going to present Kremlin for holiday todays Kremlin is too right wing and capitalist for him

Putin may not be terribly bothered re democracy but he is is not a communist really

GlassOfPort · 07/02/2019 17:03

While I agree that many of JC's policies would be considered mainstream-left in most of Europe, I think that his stance on Brexit is unforgivable.

And yes he could have done a lot more to oppose it, even if he is not in Government. He could have made sure that his front bench voted for the Cooper amendment for example. Given the number of Con rebels, a credible whip operation would have probably been enough to win the vote.

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