Fuck you Jeremy Corbyn

[MrsNathanDrake]

That's all really.

Was still naively hoping the prospect of losing the under 25s vote may pull him back, but he's clearly far to far gone for that.

Have been a lifelong Labour voter and we have a fantastic Labour MP here. Still, I cannot see me ever voting for them again.

I think Jeremy Corbyn is dangerous and as such would never ever ever consider voting for him.
If he got in without the rules of the EU we’d be like Venezuela in no time! Well maybe not exactly but he’d be able to do what he wanted and his model for society is not a good one. No wonder he’s pro leave.

I’ve heard Chuka Umunna speak a number of times and I really like him. I was kind of hoping he’d be their next leader, but I’m not sure where he actually wants that himself.

Corbyn and Abbott are like dreadful. The Labour Party is currently unelectable.

People don’t actually understand socialism Lonely which I suppose is understandable since Tony Blair the privately educated, owner of several multi-million pound properties in central London became Labour leader.
Corbyn made no secret of his struggle to decide whether to vote leave or remain at the time of the referendum. The true left don’t like the EU.

This is now my worst fear:

Crash out no deal
Chaos
General election
Corbyn wins
Corbyn in charge with no EU to reign him back - hard left socialism breeds
And there we are - Venezuela

Most people don't want to be on "the true left" which is why he is utterly unsuitable with his wish to drag people where they don't want to be (not talking about Leave/Remain here).

Well the majority of the Labour Party wanted a hard left leader which is why they voted for him. All this talk of Venezuela is pathetic.

Personally, CheekySquirrel I have now pledged to not vote Labour again until Corbyn and his ilk are gone for ever. The one good thing that could come out of this shut show would be a jawdroppingly humiliating defeat for Corbyn. (I even accept that means more Tories). Admittedly this leaves me with a choice of the currently utterly crap Lib Dems (I mean how crap do you have to be to not even be on the rise with this going on?). Women’s Equality Party maybe? And it’s got a chequered history but I would be right behind any attempt to form a centre party. It’s quite an odd feeling as a lifelong Labour supporter and erstwhile member, but we all need to know when to block our ex I guess

‘Shut show’ .. we’ll it doesn’t really need a correction does it?

stories instead of Tories? Well, there’s a Freudian slip if ever there was one.

The majority of the membership are not the electorate. I wish Corbynites would remember this. Echo chamber nonsense.

I do not blame JC for Brexit, it was a tory manifesto promise and those who voted tory in 2015 are far more to blame than JC/Labour & remember, Lab had a moderate leader back then but pro EU voters still voted Tory - did you really not think?

Labours stance on Brexit, is in many ways irrelevant, the far right Tories are in charge, led by May (who makes Mariane le Pen seem a centralist) who sees her place in history as the PM who took the UK out of the EU and will do whatever it takes to do that whatever the cost to the UK but not her party.

imho there is nothing Lab could have done to stop brexit or even modify it, they are damned if they do damned if they don't.

And so we come to what lots of us have been saying... Tory shambles, Labour a nightmare... Who do we vote for... I wish we had a new middle party

It feels very much like a students party rather than labour’

Brexit Corbyn's fault

The fact that all major political parties have subscribed to the rights of trans individuals yup Corbyns fault

Schools underfunded Corbyn's fault

NHS deliberately underfunded, Corbyns fault

Women, disabled and BME people targeted unfairly by a discriminatory benefits system, Corbyn's fault

Arms sales to Saudi Arabia that have been used on the Yemeni people, Corbyns fault

Rise of homeless people Corbyns fault

The rise in insecure work and zero hour contracts, Corbyns fault

Corporation tax and the investigation of tax avoidance at an all time low, Corbyns fault

Wealth inequality sky rocketing, Corbyns fault

I tripped over my dog earlier and it was Corbyn's fault, unless Labour do something about me tripping over my dog I cant vote for them while JC is in charge because it will be just like Venezuela and I'm sure they trip over theyre own dogs much more than us because of socialism

But Corbyn unlike me, is leader of the Opposition, claims to have mass support and is seen as the saviour of our country.
While these things you list were not implemented by him, he is allegedly in a position to do something about any of them. And he doesn't. So he has to shoulder some blame too.

All any opposition party can do when faced with a majority Government is voice concerns and try and hold the Govt to account.
Ultimately though, if in the case of Brexit, or arms sales to Saudi etc the Govt chooses a different course of action, there is nothing the opposition can do.

My fear is that because Lab have failed to oppose Brexit, they will be dragged down by the Tories as equally to blame for the ensuing economic mess, Lab will lose out electorally and we will have the Tories negotiating the future relationship with Europe and that unfortunately will be decided by the ERG.

I totally agree about Corbyn not stepping up and doing the job he is employed to do.

Ive never been able to understand the disconnect between he's the most ineffective unelectable Labour leader yet he has the power to change Tory policies, and we all know TM doesnt listen no matter what.

If I go into a shop and I dont have enough money to pay for my shopping should the checkout operator also shoulder some blame?

@mummmy2017 i feel certain that if Corbyn opposed Brexit, you would be the first to come on here stating he is anti democratic and against the Will of the People and should respect the vote......

But this government is so shit and so unpopular that a decent leader of the Opposition would do just that - lead an opposition. Why is it that Corbyn personally and Labour lead by him are doing so badly in the polls when the party in government is so shit and unpopular?

No argument here but we have no idea if any Labour leader would have a better outcome in the polls unless there was a friendlier media portrayal, all I know was his number changed when purdah had to be followed before the last election

I don't think it's the media's fault he has a negative profile. It's the inconvenient truth that other people are older too and remember his shitness before he became leader. We aren't all 23.

We aren't all 23.

Isnt that just another remainers are all the 'elite' type put down to dismiss someones opinion because they dont agree with yours?

Im not 23 btw im 46

He’s a disaster. At a time when a strong opposition was needed we have this ineffectual man.

But even if it wasn’t a time of national crisis I still think he’d be useless. He’s just not suited to front line politics. He clearly feels engaging with the media is beneath him, an irritant to be borne rather than a vital part of being a modern politician. He gets so peevish when pressed on matters.

I’m sure he’s great on local issues so he really should have remained a backbencher.

’My fear is that because Lab have failed to oppose Brexit, they will be dragged down by the Tories as equally to blame for the ensuing economic mess’

Brexit is undoubtedly a Tory demon but Labour will have their share of blame to bear. They’re banking on being able to slither out of it, but they won’t.

Well the majority of the Labour Party wanted a hard left leader which is why they voted for him. All this talk of Venezuela is pathetic.

The majority of members of the Labour Party are now far left because Miliband’s voting change sucked in crowds of ranty Trots and other extremists. Even without these far left incomers the membership was much further left than the electorate.

The truth in all parties is that the membership is generally more extreme than the elected representatives, whether local or in parliament. So parties have usually been wise enough to control the membership’s ability to install unacceptable leaders. But not Miliband. And now we have magic grandad.

The party cannot be saved now. It is a cult of the left. The only hope for centre left politics is that the Corbynistas move against enough good MPs that many others realise they could be next, overcome their reluctance to leave the Labour family behind, and split off to form a new party.

I think a new party would do very well and would kill off Corbyn’s Labour.