Why are people being so utterly vile?

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Not on here, but online in general. I know tensions are running high, and people have very polarised viewpoints, but the level of vitriol and blatant racism is shocking. I’ve come to accept it as normal from the likes of the daily mail comments, but it’s even on Facebook - with their photo, name and place of work attached.

(And yes, before anyone says it, remainers can be pretty unpleasant calling leavers thick etc.)

I feel it’s because they are pissed their future isn’t going to be rosy.
Have they not thought that many leavers perhaps felt they had nothing to lose in the first place.

Shines you are right that I’m financially alright. You are absolutely wrong that I think “fuck those that aren’t”.

The likelihood is that my family will come through Brexit just fine. I’m terribly worried that those people who think that they have “nothing to lose” are actually going to discover exactly how much they have to lose.

The people who are going to be worst impacted by Brexit are in many cases those who voted for it.

I find that heartbreaking.

Nobody likes admitting they were a sucker. No one likes being told by suckers that they are wrong.

I feel it’s because they are pissed their future isn’t going to be rosy.

Is this a justifiable reason to be piss off now? I bloody think it is

All you leavers I assume will be rejoicing when Scotland votes to leave the UK and not call us uppity jocks or take the huff - so that, as is often pointed out by EU leave voters, we can ‘be ruled by a government we vote for’

Another One
does that makes any leavers rights insignificant as their rights would then be 'stripped'?
FFS. What 'rights' would you have been stripped of if the vote had been to stay in the EU? Can't people follow a simple argument? Your vote has stripped us of EU citizenship - something that a lot of us really value.

I know a few Leavers. One is terrifying in his right wing views. He’s not British, well off, and is a very different person face to face than the scary rants he posts online, where I scarcely recognise him.
One is a local farmer who has since been complaining that he can find no workers for his fruit crop. He’s been quiet recently.
One stays quiet - was quiet very quickly following the referendum.
One has very little money, votes Labour, and struggles with disabled children. He voted for a better life - he was promised this by Leave. He is heartbroken to realise he was betrayed and wrote on SM to this effect. Angry remainers vented furiously at him. He keeps very quiet these days. He’s the only one I could put my arms round and hug because I understand exactly why he believed the lies and he now knows his already difficult life will be worse. All he did was hope for better for his family.

I know people who voted Leave. That's because I know people from a wide range of backgrounds. I understand why they voted the way they did. It was mainly to do with red tape and money. I don't fight with them at all. What's done is done. I'm not going to fall out with people I know and like because they've got a different view to me.

Tanith

Interesting how you know so many different types of leave voter, & that they all confide in you ( arenainer )

Op: the vast vast vast majority of vileness I have seen is from remainers, & they are getting worse the closer we’re getting to brexit day.
Maybe it’s because they realise all their attempts to stop it have failed ?

You see what you want to see.

. I see lots of defensiveness and easily refutable arguments from people when they are challenged on statements they have t thought about very critically. Like Millyonth’s article on housing, for instance.

“Interesting how you know so many different types of leave voter, & that they all confide in you ( arenainer )
hmm”

Yes, all my clients like to talk to me 😊

You’re obviously completely different in RL too then. 😊

the vast vast vast majority of vileness I have seen is from remainers, & they are getting worse the closer we’re getting to brexit day.

I don't believe you. You can think that's vile if you like, but compared to the racist, reactionary, simplistic twaddle I've seen all over the place from leavers it's a love song.

Tbh I’m not on Twitter or FB - I’m just going on what I’ve seen on here & remainers are by far the most abusive.

Say inflammatory stuff and people will respond. Often negatively.

surfer Ah, wondered where you were!

I can help you to grasp why you perceive 'vileness', directed at Leavers; in fact, you will have, on here, encountered a certain level of exasperation directed at you personally, because your style in entirely Soundbite Goadyness

Your premise is always 'We won/ you lost, get over it, Nar Nar Nar'

..... then you get all victimy when you get called out for your thick, goady fuckery.

HTH

Miljah has summed up surferjet rather well 😂

I'm angry for what the future holds. I don't think people knew exactly what voting leave would mean. All this bollocks about getting "our country back" and stopping immigration. It's certainly brought racism back to the surface!
I hope the people who voted leave are the ones most affected by it. The Nissan announcement will no doubt be the start of it.
I can accept a general election result where a party gets in who I didn't vote for as the next election is 5 years away. I think the referendum was the worst decision made by a PM in my lifetime.

Nissan is an example of why some remainders would be cross

The people in Sunderland voted to leave and by doing so have voted to screw there own lives over.

When they take lower paid zero hours contract jobs instead and live on a mixture of UC and handouts - who will listen to their woe when they voted this for themselves?

Anyone who voted Tory 2 elections ago is responsible for voting for an ill thought out egotistical referendum

Dh and I arrived in the UK 9 years ago with a backpack and enough rent money for 6 weeks. We bought and sold a house in London and left now living mortgage free in another country.

How the hell did you manage that?

I’ve been on here too long to be wound up by the likes of you, surferjet. Go and bother someone else.

I only know three people who voted Leave. One friend's parents (absolutely typical baby boomers) and a friend's brother who posts tons of conspiracy theories on his Facebook, and is not the brightest.

I work in central London, for an international company involved in academia which employs a lot of Europeans. Most of my friends are either from a Remain-voting city, or are musicians and generally a bit hippy, liberal types. My SIL is German and one of my closest friends is Swedish.

It's very, very possible to not really know anyone who voted Leave. I like my bubble.

Goady fuckery - remainer speak for ‘you don’t agree with me’

I suggest if you don’t want to hear leavers opinions you all stop hanging around the daily mail comments page & FB leaver groups. Places some of you just can’t keep away from.

I too know people who voted leave, I am not going to fall out with them, I do correct them if what they are saying is not true though.
So if they post 'the moon is bigger than the Earth' I am going to say no it isn't. If they say they prefer the moon to the Earth, that's an opinion, not going to argue with it, unless they also suggested that we should all feel the same way.

Places some of you just can’t keep away from.

Pot, meet kettle.