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Why are people being so utterly vile?

304 replies

WrongKindOfFace · 03/02/2019 20:10

Not on here, but online in general. I know tensions are running high, and people have very polarised viewpoints, but the level of vitriol and blatant racism is shocking. I’ve come to accept it as normal from the likes of the daily mail comments, but it’s even on Facebook - with their photo, name and place of work attached.

(And yes, before anyone says it, remainers can be pretty unpleasant calling leavers thick etc.)

OP posts:
bellinisurge · 04/02/2019 14:22

Sadly, things can get a little testy when someone wants to take your children's rights off them.

Aquilla · 04/02/2019 14:22

I'd still rather be a thick, racist Tory leaver than a socialist.
You're still far more dangerous.

bellinisurge · 04/02/2019 14:24

Odd that you think it's a Tory/Socialist split. Very odd.

SandAndSnow · 04/02/2019 14:24

Pointing out that making a decision against one's own interests seems a little, well, thick isn't vile - it's merely making an observation based on the facts which are available.

Fucking hell. Leave won. You got what you wanted. But that doesn't mean that I can't be angry or extremely critical about it.

SandAndSnow · 04/02/2019 14:25

Haha! Definitely not a socialist here. I'm resolutely centrist in my politics. I'm pretty much equally horrified by both right and left at the moment.

SandAndSnow · 04/02/2019 14:29

I'll also campaign for a return to the EU as soon as we leave. Unfortunately this national argument will never be over I fear.

MuseumofInnocence · 04/02/2019 14:29

The thing about Brexit isn't there isn't really an equivalence between the two sides. Leave voters are generally either thick, ill-informed, or racist (and some are all three). I wouldn't say this in person to a leaver, but it's really hard, when we listen to what leavers say, how things are actually panning out, and how expert advise was ignored to come to another conclusion.

purpleboy · 04/02/2019 14:44

@Mookatron at no point have I insulted you. You however do not seem educated enough to be capable of having a discussion with someone whose opinions differ, without resorting to childish insults, how sad for you to go through your life feeling so bitter towards anyone who didn't vote the same way as you. Incidentally I'm not the one on here crying about the situation so I'm not sure it's me who needs to get over it Wink

Mookatron · 04/02/2019 14:47

I'm not crying either, purpleboy, no need for your sly little wink.

If you're not 'up in arms' at what is happening in this country at the moment it's possible you haven't grasped the situation. Wink.

Mistigri · 04/02/2019 14:49

it's possible you haven't grasped the situation.

Truest thing that has been or will be written on this thread.

purpleboy · 04/02/2019 15:00

It's not exactly sly is it? Merely an indication that I find your posts rather amusing.
Exactly what is the point in being "up in arms" about a situation I have no control over? I'd rather just deal with the issues when they arise then spend all my time worrying about what may or may not happen.

TalkinPeece · 04/02/2019 15:02

I know lots of leave voters
the majority are rich Tories looking forward to more profits after employment rights and environmental protections are ripped up.
Some of them want a no deal as it will make workers easier to rip off.

I have to deal with them
but it does not make me loathe their views any less

SandAndSnow · 04/02/2019 15:04

Do you never make any plans purpleboy? After all, it's pointless, who knows what will happen?

Never mind that it is possible to make educated and informed decisions about the most likely outcomes.

But oh no! The future is a mystery so there no point in even trying.

HmmConfused

frumpety · 04/02/2019 17:37

Have you noticed that when someone who voted leave says 'no-one knows what is going to happen' , what they actually mean is ' I am going to pretend that everything we have been told is going to happen by the Government over the last year in the event of each Brexit scenario has completely escaped my notice or I am wilfully ignoring it, but I will continue to say no-one knows regardless' Smile

NameChanger22 · 04/02/2019 17:54

I don't have any friends that voted leave, but the leave voters at work are being very quiet. However, we're not really allowed to discuss Brexit at work , we've been told talking about Brexit is an example of bullying behaviour, especially if you say anything bad about leave voters.

Actually, I think remainers have been silenced a lot. I was too scared to put a 'Vote Remain' poster in my window at the time of the referendum.

Talkstotrees · 04/02/2019 17:56

I try hard not to be utterly vile and most of the time I succeed. In my head, though, I sometimes use very bad language.

Those who voted leave chose to take away the rights of tens of millions of people. Actual current valuable rights. For what? To feel better about themselves?

I will never be at peace with this.

RangeRider · 04/02/2019 17:59

Leave voters are generally either thick, ill-informed, or racist (and some are all three). I wouldn't say this in person to a leaver,
Well here we have another Remainer who feels the need to go with a mass rude generalisation. And who is obviously a coward because she can only be abusive from behind the safety of her keyboard....

MuseumofInnocence · 04/02/2019 18:16

Well here we have another Remainer who feels the need to go with a mass rude generalisation. And who is obviously a coward because she can only be abusive from behind the safety of her keyboard....

I'm not being a coward. I wouldn't say it in person because I know it's not kind, and it would only inflame the situation. However, it is how I feel in most cases.

In many political issues I can see both sides (maybe taxes should a bit higher, maybe they should be a bit lower), even if I don't agree. Brexit is a different kettle of fish. It was sold as a lie, where people were promised they could have all the benefits of the EU and more, with none of the pain of leaving. And in my real life, and in the debates I've heard on TV, radio, it really is hard to see a leave supporter that isn't either thick, ill-informed, or racist. In the case of people like Rees-Mogg, I might add the category of those who are cynically out to exploit the situation for personal benefit. I'm sorry to say it, but I'm yet to find a rational argument for Brexit that I can at least engage with.

CatnissEverdene · 04/02/2019 18:18

Leave voters are generally either thick, ill-informed, or racist (and some are all three)

Does that make you feel better?

MuseumofInnocence · 04/02/2019 18:21

Does that make you feel better?

Why would it? I actually find it quite depressing.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 04/02/2019 18:25

Nice to see Baby Boomers being accused of voting leave again😡

I’m right at the very end of the demographic (1963), I voted Remain. So did all my friends and dh.

KennDodd · 04/02/2019 18:50

With regard to some posters saying Remainers being more abusive than Leavers I would point you to the fact that 700,000 people marched through London without a single broken window while Leave marches are routinely mard by violence.

Mistigri · 04/02/2019 19:15

Baby Boomers being accused of voting leave again

I'm a tail-end baby boomer (64) who voted remain and doesn't know any leavers, because I move in a remain bubble, but I'm not offended by people pointing out that people my age voted leave. I don't really understand why that would annoy you. If you didn't vote leave you're not being targeted.

Even in the Brexit-iest places and in the Brexit-iest age groups, there were plenty of remain voters.

Peregrina · 04/02/2019 19:29

I am in the middle of the demographic 1951, and so are DH and DB 1949 both, and we all voted Remain.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 04/02/2019 19:31

It annoys me because it is ageist