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Brexit

Starting to feel really scared now...

223 replies

Crimson72 · 18/01/2019 17:00

I’m feeling incredibly anxious about Brexit, today more than ever. I think it’s because of the new Question Time, where everyone was cheering that Isabelle Oakshotte woman when she advocated no deal.

I’m terrified my home is going to drop into negative equity and I won’t be able to keep up the mortgage payments, and that my business could go under. I know these fears are immaterial when compared with some other people’s, who worry they could lose access to life saving medicine.

Is there anything anyone can say to reassure me even just a little bit - that no deal might end up not being as bad as people are predicting; or even better, that the whole thing is called off or we get a PV and remain wins? What’s the likelihood of that?

I just need a glimmer of hope right now...

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DGRossetti · 18/01/2019 18:05

First things first. Have you expressed your concern to your MP ?

www.writetothem.com

Crimson72 · 18/01/2019 18:07

No DG I haven’t - because I don’t feel that me writing to my MP is going to help anything in the grand scheme of things.

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bellinisurge · 18/01/2019 18:08

I'm sorry you are feeling stressed. Noisy no dealers get on TV because it's great telly. Irresponsible shit if you ask me.
There is a majority in Parliament to avoid No Deal. About the only thing there is a majority for. I genuinely think there are enough grown ups in Parliament to stop No Deal.

DGRossetti · 18/01/2019 18:13

No DG I haven’t - because I don’t feel that me writing to my MP is going to help anything in the grand scheme of things.

You may be right, although any MP would immediately say you are wrong.

However, speaking for myself and myself only, it can help to do what you can do, and focus on that. It takes your mind of what you can't do, and what's outside your control.

If it's any consolation, you are not alone, and there are many who are thinking of you.

durgha · 18/01/2019 18:13

Crimson, your MP wants to keep his/her seat. At worst, they listen when they are looking to save their own skins. You may help an individual put the interests of the country first. I didn't see Question Time, but it seems that quite a few people in the audience reported that the audience was riled up by BBC staff beforehand, and it's entirely possible that it wasn't a balanced audience. (evolvepolitics.com/bbc-question-time-staff-accused-of-whipping-up-audience-against-diane-abbott-before-filming/?fbclid=IwAR0aY7erNMVXC8fCYIS5DxW81FrmP5l6ELKo600L4R5LH9e5qGIl8V3Cw5w)

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 18/01/2019 18:15

I've just watched a YouTube video by one of Three Men in a Pub explaining exactly what WTO means and the implications (I hadn't a clue) - don't know how to do a clicky link but it's called WTO WTF?

Now I'm getting concerned.

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 18/01/2019 18:21

I’ve just watch the same thing tellme seriously alarming.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 18/01/2019 18:23

Your user name could be a mantra!

UpTree · 18/01/2019 18:26

What worries me is the 40% increasw made by the WTO which will trickle down to consumers... such as food prices

bellinisurge · 18/01/2019 18:35

May I gently suggest you check out threads like
To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit? part 2 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3479764-To-be-surprised-that-some-friends-are-buying-extra-food-because-of-Brexit-part-2
There are loads on here. I'm a general prepper rather than a Brexit specific prepper. I trot onto each thread suggesting people look at three full days worth of food and hygiene extras - by hygiene I mean, extra toothpaste etc so you don't run out.
That will give you either a start if you want to do more or three days grace from needing to go anywhere near a shop . You can suss out your local situation without panicking.

PerverseConverse · 18/01/2019 19:59

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PinkGin24 · 18/01/2019 20:03

I was pretty happy when I saw QT and realised that actually there are a hell of a lot of sensible individuals like me who would rather just get out, even if that means No Deal!

DippyAvocado · 18/01/2019 20:11

I've noticed an increase in pro no-deal comments largely from people who don't appear to understand what no-deal actually means and it is concerning. However, all the polling shows that there is a consistent decrease in support for No Deal. I know polling is not always accurate, but there has been a lot done and it has shown a significant trend towards remaining in the EU over no deal.

However, could Question Time please stop getting Isabel Oakeshott on. She must be the second-most frequent panellist after Farage.

Moussemoose · 18/01/2019 20:14

PinkGin24 are you not concerned that no deal might have a serious impact on other people?

You might be fine but others might suffer?

bookworm14 · 18/01/2019 20:21

I’d be grateful if PinkGin and any other No Deal cheerleaders could tell me their plan to ensure supplies of medicine in the event of no deal. My sister will die without access to insulin but I’m sure it’s Project Fear and I’m worrying for nothing, right?

Bluntness100 · 18/01/2019 20:23

I don't think parliament will let it go to no deal, it doesn't matter what the cretins on the tv though, parliament understands the catastrophic effect so will work to prevent it, and even a second referendum won't ask if people wish to exit with no deal, it will be this deal or stay.

costacoffeecup · 18/01/2019 20:29

I have exactly the same worries OP. Big mortgage on a house we bought a year ago with 200k deposit, completely manageable at the moment but if prices crash and we end up in negative equity, then lose our jobs, then interest rates rocket - well like a lot of other people we will lose everything. You aren't alone. It's always a risk to buy property I know, and we could absorb one of these things happening in the normal scheme of life, but this is a triple whammy that should be totally avoidable.

1tisILeClerc · 18/01/2019 20:46

Everyone should write to their MP to let them know what you are worried about, especially if you need particular medication. If there are problems it will help ensure that MPs don't get off the hook.
Secondly follow Bellinisurge's advice with at least a bit of a stockpile. Even if it is just chocolate as comfort. Realistically 3 days supplies as proposed by Bellini. It will at lease give you comfort that you have done something.

Frankiestein402 · 18/01/2019 20:55

What do you mean by - 'just get out'.

How do we do it?

whiteknuckleride2 · 18/01/2019 21:06

Everytime I watch QT Isabel Oakeshott is on. She is toxic.

howrudeforme · 18/01/2019 21:07

Well my MP is a major brexiteer (he voted against giving current EU nationals here any rights post B). So I wouldn’t bother writing to mine. I live in a solid Brexit area.

I’m deeply worried on a personal level and for the nation - everything - can my ds’s father stay? The impact on our fragile economy and services horribly stretched. Can I afford to support my ds - price hikes and threat of redundancy??The access to opportunities for the younger generations. I am stressed.

1tisILeClerc · 18/01/2019 21:18

PinkGin24 has no concept of what leaving really means in a practical sense.
A true 'no deal' would mean that ferries, planes and the tunnel would stop 'instantly', power from France and Ireland would be switched off (causing shortages if not blackouts).
Insurance policies underwritten in the EU of which many are would be cancelled (null and void) and various other things. After a few days even without panic buying food shops particularly would be empty. All industry that uses any parts from the EU would of course stop as there will be no ferries.
The EU negotiating teams can take the phone off the hook as there is no legal reason why they have to listen.

Moussemoose · 18/01/2019 21:30

It's very easy to say "I want no deal" it is a lot harder to come and argue your case.

Or "come on down if you think your hard enough" as we say up here.

HateIsNotGood · 18/01/2019 21:30

dear Crimson anxiety is a real problem for many people and if the source of your anxiety is fearing a No Deal Brexit can I assure you that many, many people will make sure this doesn't happen.

please don't worry about what you read here 'predicting' this that and any sort of chaos - like myself, you and them - we are just mere posters on the internet and you shouldn't let anything you read here make you anxious. Look after yourself.

PinkGin24 · 18/01/2019 21:38

Plenty of other countries survive NOT being part of the EU. I am not saying it will be instant or easy but you don't have to be part of the EU to survive as a country. I am happy to go theough the hardship in the short time (if there even is any...) to prosper in the long term.