Starting to feel really scared now...

[Crimson72]

I’m feeling incredibly anxious about Brexit, today more than ever. I think it’s because of the new Question Time, where everyone was cheering that Isabelle Oakshotte woman when she advocated no deal.

I’m terrified my home is going to drop into negative equity and I won’t be able to keep up the mortgage payments, and that my business could go under. I know these fears are immaterial when compared with some other people’s, who worry they could lose access to life saving medicine.

Is there anything anyone can say to reassure me even just a little bit - that no deal might end up not being as bad as people are predicting; or even better, that the whole thing is called off or we get a PV and remain wins? What’s the likelihood of that?

I just need a glimmer of hope right now...

Other people might not want to experience the hardship you are happy to inflict on them, pinkgin. Especially if they are already vulnerable or responsible for vulnerable dependents.

I'm reluctant to answer @PinkGin24 's Pollyanna nonsense because it is just adding to anxiety. Ramping things up with silly stuff about "short term" is just irresponsible.
Op, thankfully most of our MPs (and, I suspect, the PM herself) are too grown up to let No Deal happen, whatever you think about them.

Except those other countries aren’t an isolated island just of the coast of Europe pinkgin

All this rule Brittain a bolloocks makes me sick.

We can’t live on our arrogance,

'Op, thankfully most of our MPs (and, I suspect, the PM herself) are too grown up to let No Deal happen, whatever you think about them.'

I cautiously agree. It is the default position though if no actual deal can be agreed, and if we don't revoke in time. It still feels like absolutely anything could happen

I'm scared too. OH needs anti psychotics. I need anti ds. I have 2 dcs with special needs. Money is tight.

I worry about this too Crimson, we would be in the same position. I keep thinking though that so many people would also be....I mean, what would happen to all those houses that could no longer be paid for and weren't worth what they were purchased for? Would the UK just have huge vacant areas where nobody could afford to live in them? And what would become of all those suddenly made homeless....or would there have to be some sort of changing of the system to alleviate and accommodate?

Like others, I'm hoping parliament won't let it happen. But what I hope and what I suspect is going to happen don't necessarily match up.

This answers some questions about medicine and Brexit.

www.rpharms.com/about-us/news/detailsMedicines-and-a-no-deal-Brexit

The biggest issue for us on here is that the UK is used to being a 'rich' nation, even though as many on here are saying either they or people or areas they know of may individually be poor and there is a risk through Brexit that the UK will drop significantly very suddenly.
Other rich countries aren't changing significantly, although prices may drift up and down a bit in SOME categories.
Poor countries are used to being poor and reluctantly accept that is just what happens.
It is the rate of change and the wide range of things that will all change at once that is the issue.From where we are to where we end up is not the problem, it is how to get there safely.

I find it odd how people scoff at the suggestion that it won't be as bad as you think. All these people are doing is ramping up other people's anxieties for their own gain, which is pretty poor.

If you listened to all the interviews the BBC did with government ministers and professionals in each field which told you what provision was being made in each area back in Oct. I think it was, you would know that everything is being done to minimise any disruption.

Why on earth would the government allow people to die due to a lack of medication, the transport infrastructure to fail or the power to go off. Provision is being made for all of these things.

Provision is being made for all of these things.

Possibly, but if what people see is incompetence and secrecy, they lose confidence in the government's ability to plan and provide.

Provision is being made for all of these things.

Do you honestly believe that?

Do you honestly think that politicians are looking any further than the end of their nose?

Did you hear Boris claim he never mentioned Turkey in the Brexit campaign?

Only a fucking idiot would seriously think they’ve ‘taken back control’

I don't think they've 'taken back control'
But I have a bit more of a realistic view than suggesting politicians aren't 'looking any further than the end of their noses'.
That's just a plainly stupid sound bit.

Provision is being made for all of these things

Oh bless - how naive are you? I would laugh out loud if it was so bloody tragic.

I am also concerned. About finances, medication availability, food availability & price, about my EU friends and their right to stay here.

I've done some minor prepping, I'm trying to live frugally (& buying lottery tickets!) but this won't really help. It's a disaster.

Re: Why would the government allow people to die

1. Well this government has already let patients be in the corridors
2. Allowed NHS vacancies (doctors, nurses etc) to reach to it's highest. We are taking about NHS here and for somehow the vacancies in private sector is hidden.

1. Number of homelessness has risen

I wouldn't trust the government tbh

If you really think provision is being made for all of these things I'm afraid you are Totally Deluded.

Our parliament is behaving worse than a class of squabbling toddlers and with seemingly Less intelligence. A ferry company with no ferries. Raab saying he didn't realise how important Dover/Calais trade is. Dozens of companies inc pharmaceuticals with gagging orders so they're not allowed to say what a fiasco this whole situation is. A Prime Minister, Cabinet Ministers and MPs who tell bare-faced lies on a daily basis. And a population that in part has swallowed 20 years of anti-EU bias in the press plus the lies told by the illegal, Russian influenced Leave campaign.

This IS the stuff of nightmares.

I texted my (leaver) parents a link to the government article on medication. My mum and grandmother (in her 90s) both take regular medication but I'm not sure exactly what for. But I told them they should look into getting extra and speaking to their GP about the situation.

My dad responded with "propaganda". Sigh.

But I have a bit more of a realistic view than suggesting politicians aren't 'looking any further than the end of their noses'.
That's just a plainly stupid sound bit.

I wish it was a sound bite but it’s not, it’s a fact.

There’s no more than a handful of politicians who are acting with any integrity whatsoever, the rest are in it for personal and party gain and to hell with the consequences.

Well what a fucking shambles this country is.So many homeless yet massive freedom of movement into this country,causing a massive strain on our infrastructure.Housing so very very expensive whether renting or buying.
If housing wasn’t allowed to get so expensive in the first place,we would not have this homeless problem,people wouldn’t worry about negative equity.
I know of a fifty year old male with cancer who has been kicked out by his girlfriend and into a homeless hostel.He has been told if he hasn’t got a permanent address he won’t get his cancer operation.The council told him he has to be homeless for a year but this same council was in the papers telling how wonderful they are as they have now just housed refugees.
So as far as I am concerned fuck the eu,fuck freedom of movement and fuck all the remainders with their “I’m alright Jack attitude “

Op, I wrote to my MP to say I don't care what you do but avoid no deal.
As well as trotting out party political bollocks he said, there were no circumstances where he would support no Deal. He also said The vast majority of his parliamentary colleagues (Labour) and plenty on the other side (Tory) felt the same.
I'm a general prepper. My preps work for Brexit problems. I have been advising people on here not to anticipate the zombie apocalypse but to get a small buffer of food in.
I have no useful business advice because it isn't really my area. I would assume making affordable contingencies and playing it safe apply there too. The government has published no Deal preparations advice for businesses. That would be my first port of call for advice. Beware charlatans and snake oil salesmen.

I can’t understand how people can still be writing to their MPs urging them to avoid no deal. There is no other deal available. They have rejected the only chance of a deal.

Then @Bowchicawowow , the alternative is No Brexit. Which is not without social and political consequences but better than the immediate problems caused by no Deal.

I think there is a surprising appetite for No Deal among the general public but this isn't represented in Westminster, where most would choose anything other than No Deal.

What we are left with is the performance of democracy where the media and the political classes play out a rigged tussle.

I imagine that this is so the No Dealers won't riot because they never had a chance of leaving in any meaningful way in the first place and also to make May's limp wristed deal more palatable for the remainers.

I suppose, as a remainer, that suits me fine but this whole mess and the incompetence shown by Westminster makes me very nervous for the future.

I think it was, you would know that everything is being done to minimise any disruption

It is, but nothing is finalised, because the government can't articulate the impacts fully. No one knows what they don't know. One company that's critical and even they are now looking at what happens in an emergency supply situation, who do you shut down first, a power plant, or public transport. All most companies can guarantee is a few weeks supply. If we crash out on thr 29 th, then it's going to take a shit ton longer than a few weeks to get everything running smoothly. Only so much medication etc is being brought in, the country has effectively ran out of storage space. Six thousand companies are being asked to prepare. Do you know how much storage space that requires? A shit ton more than there is.

Really don't underestimate what we are facing. Over 80 percent of our goods come from over seas now.

And it's not as simple as it all keeps working as it did when we were part of the eu, it doesn't. Because it all has to be passed into legislation, systems need to be updated, and that needs to happen in every single country. There is no such thing as it all just keeps working.

So yes, companies are planning to minimise disruption. But don't assume they have something like a few months supply. They don't. Not even close. If we crash out with no deal, how long will it take to agree those deals with every country, pass it into legislation and then updated all the systems to make it happen? It's two years now with the eu and we still aren't there.

That's why parliament and businesses are saying this is catastrophic. They aren't fucking with us. It really is catastrophic.