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Westminstenders: Plan B is Plan A again.

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RedToothBrush · 15/01/2019 14:55

The voting starts around 7pm and is expected to finish up between 8pm and 8.20pm.

May is expected to lose. The question is by how much.

We are then expecting an immediate motion of no confidence in the government by Labour to be put forward.

May is expected to make a speech to calm the markets and then go to Brussels for an utterly pointless visit.

The Labour No Confidence is expected tomorrow afternoon after PMQs. Its expected to fail.

We move no closer to a resolution and ever closer to no deal.

Half the Cabinet want to go into cross party talks. Half the Cabinet don't.

May is apparently insistent that Plan B is Plan A. Which is what you would expect her to tell the house to comply with Grieve IV. Which again is bollocks.

But Bercow could yet refuse to indulge it.

If Plan B is Plan A again, then what's Plan C?

Crisis with a Capital C.

The stalemate grows.

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TokyoSushi · 15/01/2019 16:53

Yes @Somerville ! Inconvenient that it clashes with bedtime, early nights in our house tonight too, DH is also out so I'm free to watch undisturbed!

Mrsr8 · 15/01/2019 16:53

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Lonelyheart2020 · 15/01/2019 16:55

We are in Hospital right now ! Just ordered McDonald’s to be delivered 😂to feed and then settle daughter is i can chill and watch it unfold for the rest of the evening !
What I find quite worrying is the attitude of the nurse today “ I don’t care what happens I’m not in to do politics if won’t effect me anyway “ ... which is quite a shocking view really as erm yes it will !

SusanWalker · 15/01/2019 16:57

I'm doing chicken coupons and chips tonight. Luckily dd sorts herself out being nearly thirteen and DS is going to watch the vote with me. Dd wanted to have friends over for dinner but I have put it off till tomorrow.

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1tisILeClerc · 15/01/2019 16:59

{Anyone else rushing kids through an early supper}
I thought you were talking abiout the HoC then.

SusanWalker · 15/01/2019 16:59

Goujons not coupons!

Nannyplumbrocks · 15/01/2019 17:00

Good luck to you all from Dublin Wink

nicoala1 · 15/01/2019 17:00

Will anything actually happen tonight though if (when) the vote is lost?

Probably a lot of drama and shouting in the Commons but what the heck is new there. May has three sitting days to produce plan B don't forget!

Unless there are sackings and resignations and immediate calls (that means nothing at this stage) for a VOC by Lab which will fail anyway. Tories cannot touch May for another 12 months.

Will be interesting for sure.

JohnnyBGood · 15/01/2019 17:00

How do you cook your chicken coupons?

1tisILeClerc · 15/01/2019 17:00

What's PMK?
Placemarking but spelled funny!

AutumnCrow · 15/01/2019 17:01

We'll all be on coupons soon.

AutumnCrow · 15/01/2019 17:01

PMK = person most knowledgeable

Loletta · 15/01/2019 17:02

{Anyone else rushing kids through an early supper}
I thought you were talking abiout the HoC then.
Grin

DippyAvocado · 15/01/2019 17:02

Apologies if anyone has already posted this - it's hard to keep up with the threads.

This was in an email sent by Nicholas Soames today, who, bear in mind, rebelled against the government by voting for the Yvette Cooper Bill.

Dear Constituent,
Thank you very much for getting in touch with me about BREXIT.

I have read every single email that I have received, but I am afraid because of the inevitably huge amount of correspondence that I have received on such an important issue, it is not possible to reply individually.

I shall be supporting the Prime Minister in the vote on Tuesday evening.

DGRossetti · 15/01/2019 17:07

Probably a lot of drama and shouting in the Commons but what the heck is new there. May has three sitting days to produce plan B don't forget!

I wonder if the vote goes ahead and is defeated, whether Theresa May intends to use the Grieve amendment as way of trying to force a second vote ?

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 15/01/2019 17:07

Page 4 already!
Thanks rtb

OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/01/2019 17:07

short break.
I've chatted with two friends today. One literally turns off the news as she doesn't want the stress. Another voted leave and now bitterly regrets it. I bit my tongue.

1tisILeClerc · 15/01/2019 17:11

If anyone is feeling knowledgeable. If a 'clever banker'* had invested £100 in say July 2016, with all the shenanigans bouncing the money market about, how much would it be worth now?

  • may or may not be rhyming slang.
Peregrina · 15/01/2019 17:21

I daren't watch Parliament live.

Cherrypi · 15/01/2019 17:21

Peston tweet:

Robert Halfon will rebel against @theresa_may tonight for the first time. A sign that the majority against her will be well over 100

Interesting.

Shitmewithyourrhythmstick · 15/01/2019 17:25

Ooh Parliament channel, there's a thought.

Mrsr8 · 15/01/2019 17:27

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1tisILeClerc · 15/01/2019 17:37

{I've got a lemon drizzle in the oven...}
Another one? Not that I am counting but the word 'cake' is a bit pavlovian (food reference not intended).

RedToothBrush · 15/01/2019 17:37

Its 5.30pm. DH has the day off. Beer has been cracked open. Its 6.7%.

Faisal Islam @faisalislam
So @MPritchardUK one of the PM’s appointed trade envoys announces he will not he backing the PM’s EU Withdrawal Deal in the Meaningful Vote debate

Man who does trade for the PM doesn't think May's deal is good for trade

Esther Webber @estwebber
I have got confirmation that if a no confidence motion is moved tomorrow, it will come after the ten minute rule bill on banning low-level letterboxes

Have you ever delivered leaflets? Low level letterboxes are a menace. This is important work the HoC is doing.

Jim Pickard @PickardJE
a heavy defeat tonight is going to send the business world into meltdown: am told May, Hammond, Clark, Barclay will all be on a conference call with executives soon after the vote to try to reassure them that economic Armageddon is not inevitable

To be honest I think that business would rather hear from May, Hammond and Clarkson at this point than this lot. I think they have more credibility even after all the staged scenes. And they are less racist.

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Frank Field tells MPs a "Dardanelles-style inquiry" is needed to work out how the Govt managed to get itself into such a deep Brexit mess as today's.

Well Brexit WAS supposed to channel the spirit of Churchill....

Robert Peston @Peston
Striking that in what has been decent last day of debate on PM’s Brexit deal, Tory and Labour front benches are characterised by absence of senior ministers and shadow ministers. @theresa_may and @jeremycorbyn not seen for hours. Obviously have more important concerns

Corbyn doesn't turn up for much these days. May I can understand far more. She actually has to do things.

Robert Peston @Peston
@jeremycorbyn in shadow cabinet steered away from committing to triggering no-confidence vote tonight, after @theresa_may loses Brexit vote - though his colleagues assume he will nonetheless press button on it

We are DEFINITELY no confidencing. We've told ALL the press. Yes we its ridiculous and pointless but we've still decided we will. Oh. No we haven't afterall.

Generally feeling seems to be that Torys failing to back May are going UP in numbers and not down... I think we could be into the 200s.

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