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Can we have a list of all the things we will be able to do once outside the E.U. that we can’t do now

581 replies

Bearbehind · 13/01/2019 11:23

With 11 weeks to go this should be easy but it’s clear from other threads that people still think things that have nothing to do with the E.U. will change when we leave.

Can we have a list of tangible positive things that can only happen by leaving.

OP posts:
millyonth · 13/01/2019 13:44

Okay I will respond to the railways thing. Apologies because this is long and boring for anyone not interested in railways. It does however illustrate how the EU interferes in issues that used to be sovereign. Why do you think Corbyn doesn't want to Remain?

"Nicole Badstuber, researcher in urban transport governance at the London School of Economics and UCL:

"My reading of the fourth rail package is that it categorically seeks to dismantle incumbent state monopolies in EU countries. This rules out reinstating mainland Britain’s old state monopoly, British Rail. While public sector organisations will still be able to run rail services, any service or route will need to be contracted out and not simply awarded.
By liberalising the European rail industry, the fourth rail package is continuing a longstanding EU objective. The EU appears to share the British ideological mindset of the 1990s that led to a fragmented rail network and privatisation. It is arguing for this under the mantra that competition will bring better and cheaper services for passengers. Curiously, the EU holds up Britain as a role model, despite the fact that many in the UK take a more critical view of the privatisation in hindsight."

Hesta54 · 13/01/2019 13:45

Hopefully exactly the same but with
End of FOM
Saving of 18 billion a year
More jobs for border patrol and custom ( more tax income )
Control over rules,
Blue passports
Hopefully the change of politics as we know it.
The government solely responsible for any laws, no more, “we can’t EU ruling excuses “
And many many more

1tisILeClerc · 13/01/2019 13:51

{Europe has interfered in our important national business enough!}
So that will be the 'true Brits' selling companies off for significant profit, selling the UK short.
James Dyson, Plenty of profit, although R+D in the UK, the majority is made in the the Far East (IIRC). Didn't want to pay 'UK workers' rates.

Moussemoose · 13/01/2019 13:54

In Germany (as I stated on another thread) the railways are a PLC wholly owned by the German government.

That would overcome the issue you mention.

Also, you quote one persons reading of the package - is that how it is actually going to be implemented?

1tisILeClerc · 13/01/2019 13:57

{Hopefully exactly the same but with}
NO, that is cake and you don't get cake!
{Saving of 18 billion a year}
So what are you going to do with 0.7% of GDP that this represents?There is a chart around here somewhere but Health and social services are around 30% to 40% of GDP in comparison.

Moussemoose · 13/01/2019 14:00

This 18 million is that after we have paid for the fiasco that is Brexit?

prettybird · 13/01/2019 14:01

A saving of 0.7% of GDP versus a No Deal reduction of GDP of up to 8%.

Even if it only reduces it by a quarter of that, that still means that the "saving" has cost us 1.3% of our GDP Confused

millyonth · 13/01/2019 14:01

The point is that the EU can control how we run our railways and whether we charge VAT on tampons. We can sometimes get round things but it takes years and why should we have to?

Moussemoose · 13/01/2019 14:02

This change of politics. Are were starting with the electoral system, the constitution or a proper Bill of Rights?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 13/01/2019 14:02

Not all are sarcastic but fair enough OP Smile

NothingOnTellyAgain · 13/01/2019 14:03

But we fucked our railways without any help from the EU, surely.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 13/01/2019 14:04

UK doesn't have a written constituion, mousse.

Or do you mean you think this is our opportunity to write one?

Moussemoose · 13/01/2019 14:05

So we can have a form of nationalism but we have to follow rules. Railways can be government owned but with parameters.

Is it rules or who sets them you have issues with?

We will have to follow WTO rules outside the EU.

Bearbehind · 13/01/2019 14:05

Hopefully exactly the same but with

Of course it can’t be exactly the same just without the bits we didn’t like - that’s the bloody problem here, Leavers still can’t understand this

End of FOM

It is only going to ‘end’ to the extent we could have managed it within the EU

Saving of 18 billion a year

So we’re ignoring the rebate and forgetting about the actual cost of Brexit, let alone all the other costs of leaving.

More jobs for border patrol and custom ( more tax income )

What about the loss of jobs from industries which are destroyed by Just In Time production becoming impossible due to said border controls.

Control over rules

Which rules didn’t we have control over before?

Blue passports

Get a blue cover

Hopefully the change of politics as we know it.

Why will leaving the EU make that happen?

The government solely responsible for any laws, no more, “we can’t EU ruling excuses “

As above, which rules?

And many many more

Like what?

OP posts:
Moussemoose · 13/01/2019 14:07

I would love to change politics in the U.K. and would indeed start with a constitution that includes proper checks and balances.

millyonth · 13/01/2019 14:07

We fucked our railways on our own but now the EU says we're not allowed to unfuck them.

lljkk · 13/01/2019 14:08

I will get to gloat when DS (Army, fervent Leave supporter) is redeployed to deal with logistics in UK and doesn't get to go abroad in March as currently scheduled.

More spaces in UK medical schools (DD wants to apply, so will benefit).

More Chinese people around; I like listening to their languages.

prettybird · 13/01/2019 14:09

Scotland's railway service is currently run by Abelio - the Dutch government owned railway company, so any profits made in Scotland go back to the Dutch people Confused

millyonth · 13/01/2019 14:10

prettybird I know. Marvellous isn't it.

TheProvincialLady · 13/01/2019 14:12

Import delicious chlorinated chicken!

And allow China and the US to take out of this country what little profit remains.

millyonth · 13/01/2019 14:14

I like listening to their languages. Me too. My new year resolution is to try again to learn at least a smattering of basic Mandarin - greetings etc. But it's so hard!

prettybird · 13/01/2019 14:14

In case you hadn't noticed, the Netherlands are in the EU milly Confused

BTW, the Scotrail service is crap Sad

heeblejeeble · 13/01/2019 14:17

Maybe Marks and Spencer can source watercress in Cornwall where it's grown rather than Belgium. (Was stood in M&S today thinking this) how in earth can it be cheaper to import watercress from Belgium than Cornwall. So perhaps sourcing stuff within the Uk will increase, but then say goodbye to oranges :( still wouldn't vote leave though!

Moussemoose · 13/01/2019 14:17

We can sort of the railways we just can't go for a traditional re-nationalisation.

We can make sure they are publicly owned though.

Theimpossiblegirl · 13/01/2019 14:20

We can go back to 'the good old days' without the need of a Tardis and everything will be marvellous. We will have full control of our borders, renationalise everything, save the NHS with the billions we save and restore the UK's industrial power to be top of the economic food chain with no-one telling us what to do.
Except of course it won't because it's rose-tinted nostalgic bollocks for a time that didn't exist.

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