Can we have a list of all the things we will be able to do once outside the E.U. that we can’t do now

[Bearbehind]

With 11 weeks to go this should be easy but it’s clear from other threads that people still think things that have nothing to do with the E.U. will change when we leave.

Can we have a list of tangible positive things that can only happen by leaving.

No leaver ever offers any insight - that’s my point.

Don’t you ever question why that is?

And don’t say it’s because they are fed of of saying it / don’t get listen to etc etc.

Every suggested benefit on here has been shown to be nothing to do with the EU.

Don’t you ever stop to question that?

Don’t you ever ask yourself what happens when it is proven these things were and are nothing to do with the EU?

{No. It should be the energy required to clean the room}
You are right of course but after 5 minutes of looking at the 'AIBU' threads a lobotomy looks like an enhancement so I forgot.

For your average person on the street nothing - we will have no more power to change anything than we did before. Brexit wont suddenly mean that the voters have a say over anything more than voting for their member of parliament.

The UK Government will have more control yes than it did before but Westminister is the one who has caused a lot of the issues that people object to anyway

The ECHR is a separate convention and always has been (and I have always wondered how anyone could dislike human rights other than those who have been mislead)

Britain is just not as big a player as it thinks it is

That said I suspect there is a lot to happen before then

I have a horribly noisy Dyson DC07. It's twice as loud as our old DC02 but doesn't suck up dirt any better. Seems like the bigger motor just went into being noiser. James Dyson's prominent campaigning on Brexit (he wanted louder motors that resulted in no better suction) means I won't buy any of his products again, so well done mate.

We will be able to change allergen info on food labels that better.reflect.the food allergies in the UK, rather than across the UK as a whole.

Don’t you ever question why that is?

No, not really.
I know MN isn’t the natural home for leavers, or if it is they’re choosing not to talk about it.
Twitter & FB would probably give you a much wider audience for brexit, why don’t you ask your questions on there?
I mean, you’ve been asking your questions on here for 2.5 years & getting no where, so why keep at it?

@Reythelastjedi , pretty sure we are all humans. Last time I looked. And if we want to sell foodstuffs to EU we have to label things according to that market.

Surferjet, the WA has not been available for the last two and a half years.

bellinisurge

I know. I was referring to the specific questions bear is asking in her op, questions that have literally been asked a 1000x before.

I had a Dyson DC01 years ago. and it was seriously shite. I honestly believe it fools you into thinking it's doing a good job with its "look at all the crap in the clear cylinder" design. I ditched it after a couple of years when it catastrophically failed not long out of warranty and bought a Miele. The Miele almost sucked the carpets off the floor and made them look brand new. Even DH noticed the difference (and he can live with Quentin Crisp levels of dirt).

So what allergies do we have/not have in the UK compared to the EU?

Because, after 2.5 years and with 11 weeks to go I’m rather hoping that in might start to sink in that this is fucking pointless and no one is going to get what they want, with the added disadvantage that many people are going to be much worse off.

The only thing stopping TM revoking A50 is this ‘will of the people’ bollocks.

If the people change their ‘will’ then we can stop this charade.

Ok surferjet. And the thread and the Brexit debate has moved on. It would be a good idea if someone who feels as strongly as you would contribute to it at this further stage. I agree that the basic Leave vs Remain argument is not the one we are faced with now.

I agree that the basic Leave vs Remain argument is not the one we are faced with now.

Absolutely bellini.

We now know what the reality of no deal v WA is, and they are both shite, one considerably more so than the other.

Surely it would be better to concede you aren’t going to get what you wanted from this than to plough on regardless because you think it ‘saves face’.

The fact that none of you have any decent benefits to speak of even now has surely got to get you questioning this?

I’m certain it will be stopped Bear.
I can’t see us ever leaving tbh.
But that’s going to be a disaster too because the far right will take hold - & I mean the proper far right, not UKIP ( who were basically just the Tories after a few drinks )

It’s a case of be careful what you wish for, no Brexit could well end up being worse for you.

It’s a case of be careful what you wish for, no Brexit could well end up being worse for you.

Only if those who wanted Brexit fail to concede the reality is it would be / will be shite.

If you all continue to cling onto this unrealistic perception of what it would / could be then it will get ugly.

I’m for TM’s WA being voted through - not perfect but less damaging all round.
But that’s not what’s going to happen.
So we are heading for terrible things imo.

Why is no Brexit more terrible than no deal?

I agree surferjet that if we no Brexit there will be a tremendous responsibility upon everyone to show that it really is the best for the UK and that we can make some clear and significant changes to address real problems caused by austerity.
It won't be any good saying nyah nyah . We really will have to pull together.
Just because that would be hard doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, and all that.

Because not leaving at all will piss off too many people.
Surely you know that?
You talk about leave voters as if they’re the women’s institute. easily fobbed off with a cream tea & a geranium.

No deal will be hard for a few months but we’ve prepared for it.
Not leaving at all will be the worst possible scenario for the country.

Sounds like Project Fear to me surferjet

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Yes. Pull together & hope TM gets her deal through.

Because not leaving at all will piss off too many people.

Surely you know that?

I don’t accept that. Leaving will harm far more people than the number of people not leaving will piss off.

We cannot be held to ransom by a bunch of right wing extremists.

And the way to help achieve that is for the more moderate Leavers to concede it’s not worth it.

@surferjet No Deal would be the worst possible scenario for this country. None of the alternatives No Brexit and WA are going to feel any grand both would require a lot of work. But neither would bring the catastrophe that No Deal would bring. Immediately and for years.