Can we have a list of all the things we will be able to do once outside the E.U. that we can’t do now

[Bearbehind]

With 11 weeks to go this should be easy but it’s clear from other threads that people still think things that have nothing to do with the E.U. will change when we leave.

Can we have a list of tangible positive things that can only happen by leaving.

Italy has not grown at all since the financial crash LeClerc. There has been no recovery there at all.

The Euro doesn't work for them.

Milyonth - not quite true but yes the Euro has its flaws, we are not in it, so not sure why its relevant?
Italy is still the worlds 9th largest economy but has huge structural problems with a poor agricultural south and an industrialized north.

Our growth since the GFC has hardly been stella.

"Italy has not grown at all since the financial crash LeClerc"

We have barely grown since the financial crash, Italy has had higher increases in real wages than the UK and therefore higher standards of living.

One of Italy's problems has been globalisation, many factories in the south used to produce cheap consumer goods, clothes/toys etc, that since 2000 have been increasingly produced in China, and now Vietnam and Indonesia.

It is incredibly easy to point at others and say they are doing it wrong and this or that is bad. The thing is all the countries of the EU have their own issues, none are the 'golden child'.
Even Italy with it's severe problems will be WAY ahead of the UK which has a government that after 2 1/2 years still has no clue what it is doing and about where it is going.
I can see a lot of change in the EU over the coming years but the difference is that it is trying to take all it's peoples forwards. There may be arguments about the 'best' way but the founding principles are to look after the people.

I would say that the EU is trying to take an increasing number of people where they no longer wish to go. The EU seems incredibly resistant to change that results in transfers of power away from its institutions and towards its members.

Louise that statement makes no sense, the EU is constantly evolving and in any case has very little power of domestic issues.

The effect of a 'no deal' on the EU could be something like a repeat (in cash terms) of the 2008 banking crisis. This is bad.
The effect on the UK could easily be 10 times worse with mass unemployment, several millions.
If there are 28 of you in a 'gang' and you decide to 'fight' them all, who is going to come off worst?

LouiseCollins28
It would be more productive to work out how the UK is going to survive, let alone thrive when it leaves. Let the people of Europe worry about where the EU is going.
The UK is going to need some brilliant plans for survival.

Louise. I would say that the EU is trying to take an increasing number of people where they no longer wish to go.
I agree.
And I can't believe how posters above are downplaying the crisis in Italy.

To go back to the original OP:
We will be able to not get dragged down by the inevitable crash in the Southern Euro zone.

We can fish as much as we want in our own fishing waters without quotas made by EU.

We will have blue passports.

We will be able to have UK only queues at airports in UK.

We can set our own immigration policy.

We can pick and choose which directives from EU we adopt or decline.

We won't be embroiled in EU when it crashes.

We won't have to be part of EU army when/if it is formed.

Speaking of Italy, in real economic terms it may be doing worse but in terms of how people feel I think people are less worried about stuff than in England

(Completely unscientific of course, its just I always watch the Italian news too and its been a lot more positive than the English news recently...I watch on sky so I get a different areas regional news each day)

Hello Caring. They are now going to sneer at you and make out you are an ignorant fool.

"We can fish as much as we want in our own fishing waters without quotas made by EU."

Except we won't be selling our catch anywhere without the single market or the UK eating habits changing substantially. Also, quotas will be followed because without them you run out of fish.

"We will have blue passports."

Could have done anyway.

"We will be able to have UK only queues at airports in UK."

Never gonna happen, it'll just be EU/UK citizens infrastructure isn't there to do this.

"We can set our own immigration policy."

We do anyway. We choose not to enforce FOM rules in the UK.

"We can pick and choose which directives from EU we adopt or decline."

We will be rule takers from the EU when it comes to our exports going there, as we will be with other countries that have trade deals with the EU ( as they abide by those standards). We will be rule takers in trade deals with the US too.

"We won't be embroiled in EU when it crashes"

If the EU crashes as our biggest trading partner we will be negatively effected anyway. Outside of the Eurozone, and not responsible for bailouting out Eurozone countries already, if the EU crashes then the same effects would be had on the UK, in or out.

But the EU crashing is continually predicted by leavers with little evidence. Support for the EU is higher in countries not leaving than before the referendum.

"We won't have to be part of EU army when/if it is formed."

Had we remained we retained a veto on this so wouldn't have had it anyway

All spurious reasons then.

Goodo.

We won't have to be part of EU army when/if it is formed.

we never did have to join an EU army.

"They are now going to sneer at you and make out you are an ignorant fool"

Say foolish things, get called out on them.

Snowflakes

Most of my customers are Italians. Their kids have to come here to find work.

Mumsnet is a very popular site. The snappiness and udeness of the Remain contingent on here was probably a factor in the Leave win :)

rudeness

"Mumsnet is a very popular site. The snappiness and udeness of the Remain contingent on here was probably a factor in the Leave win"

Nah offering everyone what they want was the biggest factor in the leave win.

Pandering to people's prejudices and fears too.

Oh and fraud and Russian interference, lets not forget that

{Speaking of Italy, in real economic terms it may be doing worse but in terms of how people feel I think people are less worried about stuff than in England }
Unless things get a lot worse in Italy, They will be discussing whether to have a holiday or some other belt tightening.
The UK is discussing food distributed by the Army, rioting and mass unemployment.
Compare and contrast.

The last time I watched the news (last week) there was a positive piece about banks lending to individuals (mortgages and small business), a bit of worrying about volcanoes, and then a human interest piece about how the Italian basketball team with downs syndrome had won the special world championships.
I flicked over last night assuming they’d be talking about brexit but they were talking about a terrorist attack in Nigeria......so yeah I think it’s fairly business as usual in Italy atm rather than panic stations.

The snappiness and rudeness of the Remain contingent on here was probably a factor in the Leave win

Are you suggesting some Leavers voted on the basis of the personality of people on the internet?