Any Leavers here?

[HoyPolloy]

Been reading all these threads on here about Brexit and just wondered if anyone voted Leave?
Fwiw, I did.
If you voted Leave what do you anticipate will happen before 29/03?

Dont be shy, I can't be the only Leaver on here!

Is it true that you can't deport a shop-lifter? Or is that a Daily Mail myth?

This guy was here 2 months. Paranoid schizophrenic. On meds.!career criminal. No job. Shoplifting was his job. Yay for us and our freedom of movement in the eu.

You can deport them but it's bloody hard going.

I swear if I could
Go public with this stuff....

@coppercolouredtop that is an unacceptable thing to speculate about someone who is schizophrenic.
My aunt is schizophrenic. She has held down a career, raised her daughter who is now a at Oxford Univesity and is a fabulous aunt to me.

You don’t get to stigmatise mental illness like that. It is completely unacceptable.

A 'self confessed paranoid
schizophrenic'. This may surprise you but it's not a choice.

{Yay for us and our freedom of movement in the eu.}
If you were clever enough to be a police officer you would know that FoM would have no effect whatsoever as anyone can come for 3 months, no questions asked.
You should also know that the immigration at the port/airport should have made checks when he arrived. That would be a fail and not of the EU's making.

coppercolouredtop - Your prejudiced comments regarding mental health are very alarming for anyone working with the general public, let alone someone in law enforcement who is more likely to need to encounter people with mental health conditions.

You also seem to have an inability to recognise that anecdotal evidence is not the same as actual statistical fact.

I genuinely hope you are not the person who responds if I or anyone I care about ever need to call for help.

What you are describing isn't an FOM problem so much as a policing resources problem. But if you want to blame the EU for that, carry on. I imagine the money being flushed down the toilet that is being spent on necessary preparations for No Deal could be better spent. But the Leave vote and unwillingness to support the grown up version of Leave which is WA puts us where we are.
Assume you are also concerned about that too.

So if your son or daughter went to Latvia and was rightly or wrongly accused of shoplifting, would you insist on him/her being offered a translator of
English or would it be ok for the Latvian police to charge him/her without having given them the chance to defend themselves? Right to a fair trail is in the ECHR. Nothing to do with the EU.

The UK just haven’t managed its immigration very well and this is despite being an both island with proper border control very possible and not being part of Schengen.

After Brexit you will still have latvian shop lifters, but no latvian translators.....

singleDad
What it means is that all the increase in wealth in future will be, via the democratic process be able to be distributed evenly amongst the population, something it patently hasn’t been in the time we’ve been in the EEC/EC/EU.
This is actually hilarious. At what point and in which country EVER in the history of the world have increases in wealth been distributed evenly amongst the population? How can you blame this on being members of the EU? I've read some 'arguments' on here, but this one beggars belief.

Criminals will always travel. So will scholars and skilled workers. (All of whom could be suffer from a mental illness).

My DF is a retired Police Inspector and he says modern police are nothing more than glorified parking attendants as their powers have been removed. It is also well known among police families that those in law enforcement become cynical pretty quickly as they often deal with the worst side of society, Day in, day out. It's not a job I would like to do, and am grateful to all who are willing to do it.

But let's not get sidetracked by policing issues. The lack of services, funding and lack of respect is not the fault of the EU. This is the fault of our governments. (As an example, I live very close to the EU border, in Switzerland, in an area which is filled with NGO's and therefore a large percentage of the population is migrants) and you do NOT mess with the police around here, either side of the border. They have powers!)

@millyonth

1. We have consistent failed to manage immigration from inside or outside the EU - why would brexit improve this?

Our housing problems date back to Thatcher selling off the stock and then the failure of U.K. governments to build more.

1. Railways could be nationalised just in a different form. German railways are a PLC with all shares owned by the government.

1. We are not a direct democracy. Leaving the EU will have no impact on that at all. Although, if Parliament does exert its power to stop Brexit that will be good for U.K. democracy.

I would be interested to know what you consider makes up a 'proper democracy'.

Also, if you want an anecdote to cheer you up try this. 20 year old asylum seeker from Syria, if he returns will be forced to join the army, home destroyed, family missing. He has had his claimed dismissed and was made homeless on the 22nd December.

@coppercolouredtop I do not doubt your comments and frustration at dealing with repeated incidents like this. However this countries failure to address immigration is not the fault of the EU the regulations are in place but have never been enforced.

Let’s not kid ourselves that leaving the EU will make this any better. Any trade deals we do will come with big concessions on immigration so expect the same pressures on policing, education and the NHS to continue.

"the regulars on these Brexit threads won't listen to your real-life experience they will either sneer or quote statistics that they've looked up on the Internet."

... okay, so now anecdata are more valid than Full reports made to the House of Commons? I guess that summarises populism in a nutshell. "Only believe what you want"

I know someone who helps with translation services for the police. I looked into such services for a work project, myself. There are dozens of dial-up services that big organisations use. They aren't cheap, I'll grant! But they operate nationally and typically using ongoing contracts and different pricing schemes. So surprised none was available (Xmas eve or any other day).

That story was anecdata. So it must be true!

Yes and criminals might break the rules to get in the country because criminals have a tendency to break rules.

What?? I did not say I wanted to recreate Swiss life in the UK.

What about those railways though millyonth?

I've posted a long railway answer on the other thread.