What the actual fuck is wrong with Corbyn?

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He is less useful than a chocolate teapot anyway, but for a man who blusters on so much about "listening to the members" and "making policy based on the members" he's certainly got an odd way of showing it.

I just find it extraordinary that such a shambolic, self-interested and, frankly corrupt, government has been enabled to get away with it because the opposition is so extraordinarily ineffectual.

Another former Labour voter here.

I actually like many of JC policies and agree that they would be considered mainstream in the rest of Europe. However:

• His silence on most of the Brexit debate in unforgivable and his leadership skills are appalling

• I am also getting fed up with the Blair demonisation. With all their faults and catastrophic foreign policy, Blair and Brown have done a lot for this country's schools, hospitals and vulnerable people. JC on the other hand has achieved sod all in his career as a professional rebel

Let's not forget that Corbyn supported the IRA terrorist gang in Northern Ireland that murdered hundreds of men, women and children, and declared that the way Venezuela is run should be an inspiration to us all !!!.
This is not a person to be trusted with power as he is clearly unable to make the right decisions.

jasjas1973

Then I shall report you for troll hunting.

Let's not forget that Corbyn supported the IRA terrorist gang in Northern Ireland that murdered hundreds of men, women and children, and declared that the way Venezuela is run should be an inspiration to us all !!!.

I'm no Corbyn fan but let's not talk bullshit eh.

Corbyn was in favour of talking to the IRA and in fact that is exactly how peace was achieved.

Would you talk about Tory politicians supporting the "Unionist terrorist gang" in Northern Ireland? No, thought not.

"Corbyn was in favour of talking to the IRA and in fact that is exactly how peace was achieved.

Would you talk about Tory politicians supporting the "Unionist terrorist gang" in Northern Ireland? No, thought not."

As for the first- that was Mo Mowlem but as she's a dead woman, Corbyn and his minions are happy to take credit for her work.
As for the second- apsofuckingluty.

Jeremy Corbyn wants Brexit, why would he do anything other than what he's currently doing? The real question is why so many Remain-supporting Labour Party Members voted for a Brexit leader at the most recent Labour leadership election (which took place after the Referendum). They could have voted for someone opposing Brexit, but decided not to.

Surferjet and I have always said we voted leave, knew what would happen, and still felt we had to take this single chance to leave. Not as a protest vote, but as the EU is not what we joined, it is a far different beast to just a trading platform.
This does not make us trolls.
I agree 100% this forum may be a place to talk, but it will never change what is happening in RL...

As for the first- that was Mo Mowlem but as she's a dead woman, Corbyn and his minions are happy to take credit for her work.

Corbyn wasn't in government at the time, so in fairness it would have been hard for him to take the lead in this. The Labour Party as an organisation can and should take some of the credit for the GFA.

@mummmy2017 - and that has what exactly to do with how shit Corbyn is?

& bellinisurge thank you

@Mistigri Corbyn can fuck off to the back end of Fucksville if he dares take any credit for GFA.

Bellini, I get that it's personal to you but I think there are better issues to fight Corbyn on. He wasn't involved in negotiating the GFA because he was a back bencher. He does now lead the British political party that succeeded, with the help of other actors, in ending the civil war in Ireland (and which can take credit for that).

Much of the most fervent criticism of Corbyn's past foreign affairs stances comes from people who opposed the GFA and also called people like Nelson Mandela "terrorists".

If we're going to get into party leaders' dodgy personal opinions about foreign terrorists/ freedom fighters (delete as appropriate), you could go and watch May being asked whether Nelson Mandela was a terrorist, only last year.

Was more to do with the troll comments.
Corbyn.. Holds head in hands...
Where do you start.

@Mistigri - I'm old. I remember what a carping-in-the-corner, posing-with-"edgy" types, Corbyn was and still is.
I'm part Irish and part Jewish. I'm a woman. I used to be a Labour supporter. He's a fucking waste of space as evidenced by what he is or isn't doing right now. When the country needs a decent Leader of the Opposition.
If you want to thank UK politicians that made GFA, thank Major and Blair.

The problem with terrorists is that sometimes they are not 'wrong' but have an alternative point of view that is being taken to the point of violence.
There are only 2 possible ways of resolving this, by discussion, or the 'extreme' method as was attempted in Vietnam (largely unsuccessfully) where you wipe out the entire 'terrorist' operation and all it's sympathisers. Eventually the USA managed to come to the conclusion that to 'win' you have to win 'hearts and minds' and enable a viable alternative. What you are promising MUST match up to what is achievable. In some ways Brexit is suffering the same problem and whatever the outcome on 29 March something tangible HAS to be delivered. It would be great to think that some of the referendum promised could come into fruition, but it is very difficult to see how.

May had a 30 seat majority when A50 was triggered, Labour voting against it wouldn't have stopped it.

Then it didn’t need Corbyn to issue a 3 line whip to insist that his MPs voted for it did it? But he did, which is a big fat signal of intentions.

Corbyn is totally complicit in this mess.

Corbyn is hoping for a disaster brexit that will destroy the Tories and usher in a glorious revolution. Members of the front bench have admitted to sitting back and letting the Tories damage themselves. Which in ordinary times would be fair enough. But this is not ordinary times and if Corbyn thinks people will thank him for standing by and letting the country be trashed purely so they can gain power he is shockingly naive.

And the party line of ending freedom of movement and retaining the exact same benefits is an oxymoron. If I don't have the freedom to live and work in another country without a visa then I don't have the exact same benefits.

I do think this is the time for a more electable labour candidate to rise. We want a more fair society and we want to stay in the EU. Corbyn is not helping on either count at the moment. If we had a general election tomorrow I couldn’t vote for him. Not because of his left wing policies, which I agree with, but for his lack of leadership, painful lack of diplomacy and real lack of providing a concerted opposition to an appalling party in power.

When Ed Milliband opened up the gateway to allow any Tom, Dick, or Harry to join the Labour Party, quite a few Conservatives joined with the express intention of wrecking the party.

I wonder how many they managed to rout out in the end?

Corbyn had nothing to do with peace in NI despite the re writing of history his fan club are trying to do.

Corbyn is a backbench protester happier on his allotment than being expected to explain himself about ANYTHING

He want Brexit to bring about a socialist revolution so that he can become the next Maduro

He and his Momentum thugs are destroying the Labour party and handing the country to Rees Mogg and the disaster capitalists
BASTARD

@SillySallySingsSongs taking credit for a dead woman's work (Mo Mowlem) is the only tactic those scumbags have for explaining that ghastly photo of JC shaking hands with Adams just after the Brighton Bomb. Sadly for them, I (and other labour supporters) remember it first time around. And the timing. And the context. Dickwipes.

It's been said but he wants us to leave the EU.

He clearly does @FayFortune .