Westminstenders: May plays Sale of the Century

[RedToothBrush]

Theresa May is currently in the midst of a campaign to sell her deal to the public. Unfortunately she appears that there are only 649 people she needs to sell it to, and that's not going so well.

She attempted a sales pitch to potential Labour rebels and succeeded in getting them to actively decide to vote against her.

There are currently 100 backbench tories who have stated they will vote against it, which makes parliamentary maths very difficult.

There is a rising support for plan b in the form of Norway Plus. This may make Remainers less likely to vote for a deal but persuade some leavers to back May.

The ECJ A50 Court case has been heard. Judgment has not been given yet. Its due 'soon'.

Next week the Withdrawal Agreement will be debated in Parliament with the vote due at 7pm on Tuesday 11th December.

Expect a rough couple of weeks.

Placemat king
Thanks red

You'd think that - finally - an admission form HMG that Brexit in any shape or form leaves the UK less well off than now would be cataclysmic news.

Surely it's just viewed the same as HMG warning before the referendum that we'd all be worse off if we voted to leave. Experts, Remoaners and Project Fear isn't it?

[santa]

I think the ECJ opinion is out at 8am British time.

The ecj opinion - is that the attorney generals ruling?

I know for vat and customs, the attorney General gives a ruling in advance saying what the decision is likely to be - it's very usual for the ecj to stick to that in the vat World, and cause for much comment if they depart from it. Don't know if its the same in this case.

Anyway, place mat King.

Two more weeks before the vote, and then what? The level of uncertainty is insane, and terrifying.

Plaice Mat King.

Jo Maugham tweet

Jack Lopresti MP
‏*@JackLopresti*

I'm very honoured to have been promoted to the role of PPS to the Secretary of State for Exiting the #EuropeanUnion @DExEUgov @SteveBarclay.

I look forward working hard to deliver on the referendum result.

That's Andrea Jenkyns' husband. Interestingly, he hashtagged Back the Brexit Deal. I guess he has to be seen to now.

Oh.

Andrea Jenkyns MP #StandUp4Brexit
@andreajenkyns

Congrats on my husband's promotion/PPS to the Brexit SOS. My husband is a hard woking MP. A deserved promotion. But no doubt this is a tactic of the whips to divide & conquer. I certainly won't be silenced & will continue to fight for Britain both in Commons & now at home :-)

Apologies if this has been posted before:

Adam Bienkov @AdamBienkov

Buried in the analysis of May's Brexit deal is fact it's based on UK successfully signing new deals with US, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Brunei, China, India, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain.

Plus rolling over all existing EU trade deals with third countries.

uk.businessinsider.com/the-uk-government-admits-brexit-will-inevitably-leave-britain-poorer-2018-11

DGR re the SS and sharing information, all information related to immigration is excluded to the GDPR....

DGR re the SS and sharing information, all information related to immigration is excluded to the GDPR...

it may be. But once the data has been passed onto private companies they are bound by GDPR - so can't pass data on without the subjects explicit consent.

I was going to say place mat king.

Apart from deviants, surely it should be place marking, as in marking a place? Or is just a MN 'in joke'?

It's a joke, someone way back made this typo and it's stuck. Stuck in the way kiddy names for things stick.

Buried in the analysis of May's Brexit deal is fact it's based on UK successfully signing new deals with US, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Brunei, China, India, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain.

Can anyone confirm if this is indeed true ?

Stuck in the way kiddy names for things stick.

The day we can't have a childish moment, is the day to die.

I have a vague memory that ‘placemat king’ was what Autocorrect threw up when someone typed Placemarking. A long while back.
I love Autocorrect sometimes. (Not when I’m trying to write French though!)

Thanks for new thread Red at al

JRM speaking his mind again. He’s getting ruder. (Maybe a sign of increasing desperation?)
I was shocked when he openly challenged TM in the HoC, but now Mark Carney gets it:

”Mark Carney is a second tier Canadian politician who failed to get on in Canadian politics and then got a job in the UK. I don’t think he’s greatly respected.”

mobile.twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1067853557221785601

Sorry!
et al not at al!

Jacob Rees Mogg had his arse handed to him by Evan Davis on PM here from about 48mins. He forgot that ED used to be BBC economics editor and wouldn't accept his (baseless) criticisms and allegations about the BoE and Treasury forecasts that were released today. The Gentleman Jacob mask slipped within seconds once he had someone challenge him.

If Adam Bienkov is correct and no one appears to have mentioned this rather pertinent fact in the news, we are looking at impact statements based on unlikely scenarios, with a timeframe far beyond that previously mentioned ?