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Westminstenders: May plays Sale of the Century

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RedToothBrush · 28/11/2018 12:17

Theresa May is currently in the midst of a campaign to sell her deal to the public. Unfortunately she appears that there are only 649 people she needs to sell it to, and that's not going so well.

She attempted a sales pitch to potential Labour rebels and succeeded in getting them to actively decide to vote against her.

There are currently 100 backbench tories who have stated they will vote against it, which makes parliamentary maths very difficult.

There is a rising support for plan b in the form of Norway Plus. This may make Remainers less likely to vote for a deal but persuade some leavers to back May.

The ECJ A50 Court case has been heard. Judgment has not been given yet. Its due 'soon'.

Next week the Withdrawal Agreement will be debated in Parliament with the vote due at 7pm on Tuesday 11th December.

Expect a rough couple of weeks.

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1tisILeClerc · 28/11/2018 21:51

{He is an execrable, odious, misogynistic, bigoted little piece of shit.}
I think you are being too complimentary there.
I presume all politicians that are continuing this disgusting name calling can't work out that it will bite the UK hard, whatever gets decided. When you are in a cage with a a tiger and you only have a short stick, it is best not to poke!
Just been reading a piece in Der Spiegel (handily in English) which is a very good appraisal of where the UK had 'messed up.
No mention of Brexit in the Deutche Zeitung, but the passing of Spongebob Squarepants is discussed. UK put suitably in place I think!

prettybird · 28/11/2018 22:12

I've just checked the EU Parliament results: Coburn only got 10% of the vote (up 5% Shock) but got one of the 6 seats, as I remembered correctly, because of "Last Man Standing", as the threshold for the 3rd SNP MEP was 194,000 (with 29% of the vote) and Coburn had 140,000 votes Sad He was 38,000 ahead of the Green candidate. The Conservative got 231,000 (and one MEP). The LibDems lost their seat.

He is such an odious creature. My skin crawls every time I see him on TV (for the brief second before I turn over) Envy

Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2018 22:17

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Thomasinaa · 28/11/2018 22:21

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DGRossetti · 28/11/2018 22:25

Well, if nothing else, it seems there's a stirring in the force somewhere ... more posts in AIBU about house buying and Brexit.

DoctorTwo · 28/11/2018 22:29

I see Theresa's touring the country lying to the people. As per fucking usual. She should just say "however we leave the EU we are fucked economically", but she won't as she's a coward who wants to hang onto power. Vile racist excuse for a human being.

DGRossetti · 28/11/2018 22:29

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-spends-just-three-hours-13659967

dailyrecord.co.uk
Theresa May spends just three hours in Scotland as she tries to sell Brexit deal
David Clegg
5-6 minutes

Theresa May yesterday spent a measly three hours in Scotland trying to sell her doomed Brexit deal to
sceptical voters.

The Prime Minister provided no new answers on a whirlwind trip north of the Border on the day her own Government’s projections showed the devastating costs of leaving the EU.

Experts believe the UK will take a mammoth £139billion hit over Brexit – the £39billion divorce bill and the remaining £100million due to a fall in GDP.

The Scottish Secretary David Mundell tagged along on the visit to Bridge of Weir (Image: James Chapelard / SWNS.com)

The Bank of England warned a no-deal exit could trigger a surge in living costs and a worse recession than the 2008 financial crisis.

The economy could shrink by eight per cent, while inflation could jump to 6.5 per cent – partly as a result of the pound slumping by 25 per cent against other currencies, leading to higher household bills.

Whitehall papers forecast GDP would be 3.9 per cent less in 15 years than if the UK had backed Remain at the 2016 referendum.

Against that appalling backdrop, the Tory leader spent just 10 minutes answering questions from the Press after a hastily arranged tour of a leather manufacturer in Bridge of Weir.
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She insisted the deal agreed with Brussels this week had “taken Scotland’s interests into account” but could not say how the agreement would win support in the House of Commons or boost the economy.

May, who landed in Glasgow Airport around 3pm and left at about 6pm, said: “There is a very clear decision MPs have to take when it comes to the vote. We have negotiated a deal which is a good deal for the UK that does deliver on Brexit.

“It brings into place things the public voted for, things the public wanted to see: An end to free movement, sending of vast annual sums to the EU every year, an end to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, coming out of the CAP [Common Agricultural Policy], coming out of the CFP [Common Fisheries Policy] – very important for Scottish coastal communities.”

The beleaguered Prime Minister also ruled out any prospect of a second independence referendum, repeating her mantra that “now is not the time” for such discussions.

She added: “What we have negotiated is a Brexit deal that is good for the UK as a whole, is good for Scotland, it is good for employers, it is good for Scottish fishermen.

“Support for the deal has been encouraged by employers like Diageo, by organisations like the Scotch Whisky Association, the National Farmers Union for Scotland. One thing we do know is that what will be bad for the Scottish economy would be taking Scotland out of the United Kingdom.”

SNP MSP Tom Arthur said the visit must be some kind of record (Image: Supplied)

But the SNP said May’s flying visit showed “contempt” for Scotland. Renfrewshire South MSP Tom Arthur said: “This must be a new record, jetting in and out in just three hours.

“It also suggests she knew she would get short shrift from ordinary people if she actually spent any length of time on the streets here. She’s fooling nobody with this publicity stunt.”

May’s short Scottish sojourn had already been undermined by the row over the UK Treasury analysis of the various scenarios for Brexit.

Philip Hammond caused major embarrassment for the Prime Minister by admitting the economy will take a hit with or without her deal.

The Chancellor, who controls the British budget, also admitted staying in the EU’s single market for trade would be better for the country “purely on the economics”.

Hammond said: “If you look only at economic benefits, yes there will be cost to leaving the European Union.” He added: “The economy will be slightly smaller in the Prime Minister’s preferred version of the future partnership.”

SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford seized on the revelations, telling MPs the deal would “leave people poorer than the status quo”.

Speaking at Prime Minister’s Questions earlier in the day, he said: “Quite clearly, under any scenario, leaving the single market and the customs union we’ll be poorer.

Chancellor Phillip Hammond said staying in the single market would be good economically (Image: Getty Images)

“The Prime Minister wants to take us back to the days of Thatcher and a belief that unemployment is a price worth paying, that’s the reality.

“People in Scotland voted overwhelming to Remain, we voted for our rights to be respected and we are not prepared to give up those rights.”

May responded: “He talks about what the people of Scotland voted for, they voted to stay in the United Kingdom and they voted for 13 Conservative MPs.”

plaidlife · 28/11/2018 22:46

Finally someone in government has said what everyone knows, leaving is a political decision with a financial cost.

prettybird · 28/11/2018 23:02

How to make a story run and run Grin As the Chuckle Brothers (Andrew Pearce of the Daily Mail and Kevin Maguire of the Mirror) have just said on Sky News: a tremendous own goal by May's spin doctors, so that's all that's being talked about rather than what she said when she was up in Scotland (not that she was up here for long and she only took 10 minutes of questions from the press anyway and it looks like she only "talked" to about 9 real people Hmm probably hand picked so that they wouldn't tell her to Fuck Off ) Angry

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Tomorrow's front page: This is where we would have reported on Theresa May's visit to Scotland. We were barred from her press conference with the other newspapers, so we have refused to cover it.

Westminstenders: May plays Sale of the Century
wherearemychickens · 28/11/2018 23:16

That is a brutal front page. They've done the same inside.

Brexshit · 28/11/2018 23:16
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prettybird · 28/11/2018 23:32

Tweet from Nicola Sturgeon Smile

@NicolaSturgeon: How about Theresa May stops using independence to avoid questions and responsibility for her Brexit mess?https://t.co/1nMfvF3YYH

Westminstenders: May plays Sale of the Century
Peregrina · 28/11/2018 23:34

I know that not all Scots like Nicola Sturgeon but I wish we had someone like her in England!

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borntobequiet · 29/11/2018 08:09

Owen Paterson made to squirm a bit by Anna Hill on Farming Today re his jaunt to the US in search of free trade deals on food (last 3/4 min of episode). Paterson is not used to polite, persistent and above all well informed questioning, which is the way Anna goes about her business.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001bb7

SusanWalker · 29/11/2018 08:42

I was thinking that Mrsr8. I'm thinking 'in the national interest' is going to be the new 'strong and stable '.

Still if she does as disastrously as she did in the GE we might see a swing to remain.

DGRossetti · 29/11/2018 08:45

Looks like we're headed for no deal. It's almost inevitable that cretinous moronic Brexiteers will take this as a challenge ...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46377765

Large parts of the British economy are not ready for a no-deal Brexit, Bank of England governor Mark Carney has said.

(contd)

Tanith · 29/11/2018 08:48

Ruth Davidson must be absolutely raging! All that hard work she put in, making the Conservatives an option in Scotland, and the English Conservatives destroy it with their arrogance.

As for the National, it’s shameful: I feel like writing to apologise. However, they’ve handled it brilliantly and I bet their readership has surged!
CNN - now you know what to do when Trump plays his games 😊

Mind you, they don’t treat the rest of the country with much more consideration, so I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised.

Peregrina · 29/11/2018 08:55

Sadly, The National Headline won't be seen in the rest of the UK.

DGRossetti · 29/11/2018 08:55

This news is delayed because of the time it takes radio waves to travel between Earth and Mars.

newsthump.com/2018/11/27/nasa-receives-signal-from-mars-saying-brexit-deal-is-shit/

NASA receives signal from Mars saying Brexit deal is shit

Tuesday 27 November 2018 by Chris Ballard

NASA’s InSight probe has sent back a mysterious signal from the Red Planet stating that Theresa May’s Brexit deal is a pile of wank.

Despite only landing on Mars yesterday, the InSight probe has already revealed signs of intelligent life.

“InSight was sending us initial diagnostics just to show that the equipment was all up and running after that dramatic descent,” said Nasa spokesman Simon Williams.

“Suddenly we heard a faint robotic voice giving us a message. It was five syllables long and, somewhat strangely, was being sung to the tune of the musical signal from ‘Close Encounters.’

“‘Brexit deal is shit. Brexit deal is shit.’ It just kept on repeating.

“Surely this is proof that intelligent life exists on Mars?”

However, many scientists are warning the public not to get too excited.

“Reaching the conclusion that the Brexit deal is mostly disappointing bollocks does not necessarily indicate the presence of an advanced life form,” said one Professor of Space.

“It merely shows that something cleverer than the British Prime Minister exists beyond our own atmosphere.

“It’s probably just a bacterium living in the Martian sub-soil or perhaps even some dust which was kicked up from the surface when the probe landed.”

It’s not just intelligent, extra-terrestrial life which thinks Theresa May’s deal is a bad idea. President Donald Trump has also weighed in with criticism of his own.

“Yeah, despite what many believe we can confirm that Trump is human,” said Nasa’s Simon Williams.

“Why do you think we dedicate our lives to an eventual escape to Mars?”

Peregrina · 29/11/2018 08:58

As far as May and most of her Cabinet are concerned, I am sure they think their little pocket of the Home Counties is the only part which matters. Places like Wales, Scotland or even Cornwall are places you go to on holiday, a bit like France or Austria, except that they speak English.

DGRossetti · 29/11/2018 09:51

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany/frankfurt-expects-750-800-billion-euros-in-assets-transferred-due-to-brexit-idUKKCN1NY0VV

Frankfurt expects 750-800 billion euros in assets transferred due...

FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Banks are expected to transfer 750-800 billion euros (664-709 billion pounds) in assets to Frankfurt due to Britain’s departure from the European Union, the city’s lobby group Frankfurt Main Finance (FMF) said on Thursday.

The bulk of the relocation of assets will occur in the first quarter of 2019, FMF managing director Hubertus Vaeth said in a statement, adding that more was to follow later.

“As long as uncertainty persists most financial institutions prefer minimum solutions,” he added.

Currently, banks based in Frankfurt have total assets of 3.5 trillion euros.

Of 37 financial institutions that have applied for new or more comprehensive bank licences with the European Central Bank, 30 have picked Frankfurt as their European headquarters, Vaeth said.

Roughly half a dozen banks which have picked a different hub on the continent are also increasing their Frankfurt footprint, he added.

Vaeth still expects 10,000 new jobs to be created in Frankfurt due to Brexit, adding that the increase will occur more slowly than originally anticipated.

That target will likely be reached within eight years after the 2016 referendum, and not five years as originally thought, he added.

Tanith · 29/11/2018 10:04

I don’t know, Peregrina... It was on Sky News apparently and the National say it’s gone viral.
They also say their subscriber numbers have shot up Grin

prettybird · 29/11/2018 10:10

May currently being escoriated in front of the Transport Select Committee Grin