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Brexit

A little quiz for leavers mainly, but anyone may answer

431 replies

PrincessMargaret · 22/11/2018 22:14

If you voted leave, please answer at least three of these, it must include #6.

  1. Can you name a bad EU law?
  2. What will you do outside the EU that you couldn't do inside the EU?
  3. How will WTO tariffs keep us competitive?
  4. How will border controls keep our lorries moving?
  5. Why would any Multinational stay in the UK with tariffs, mountains of “country of origin” paperwork, and border hold ups?
  6. How can you solve the Northern Ireland problem?
  7. The EU citizen Hostile Environment. We now have twice as many NON EU immigrants coming to the UK to work than EU, how is that better?
  8. Under WTO rules any one of 163 countries can hold a trade deal up for years, is that taking back control?
  9. Trade deals take 8 years on average, what do we do in the meantime?
  10. Where do you get your information from, ever thought there may be a hidden agenda?

Very interested to see the responses.

OP posts:
Buteo · 24/11/2018 20:16

PS You don’t know my ethnicity either.

Fattymcfaterson · 24/11/2018 20:19

On a thread asking for answers to a list of questions, the one person who took the time to answer them all. Catherine nicely done

The post had been largely ignored. Quell surprise 😲

Lonelycrab · 24/11/2018 20:20

whether it’s U.K. policies fault that’s exacerbated the problem is irrelevant.

I think that’s a ridiculous thing to say, and the fact you fail to see why it’s not relevant is a sad reflection on where we as a country are.

BakedBeans47 · 24/11/2018 20:21

Anne Widdecombe and especially Arlene Foster would have negotiated a much better deal.

🤣

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 20:22

Shame that mot of Catherine's points had more holes than Swiss cheese.

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 20:23

But then as 'Leave voters' you will have spotted Catherine's mistakes as you know all the details.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 21:06

No lonelycrab it’s you that didn’t read my post properly. Not my fault you have comprehension problems. I suppose it’s a problem with UKs education system. It’s certainly a sad reflection that certain members of the U.K. don’t matter. So sit there with your moral superiority and eventually it will come back and bite you on your bum. Ignore the masses at your peril. That’s why we finished up with a leave vote.

MutantDisco · 24/11/2018 21:39

Christ.

I have never, ever seen a Leave voter answer a question about how the EU works. It's almost as if Leave voters haven't got a clue how the EU works, and, by extension, our entire political system.

Could we have some answers, please?

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 22:47

Perhaps Mutant it’s because leave voters aren’t answerable to you. Mind you I was certainly convinced by the 2 remain voter uni students who said they voted remain because the EC gave them the NHS and they wouldnt be able to go to Ibiza again.

bellinisurge · 24/11/2018 22:53

@Imissgmichael - those reasons are no more stupid than some shit onthe side of a bus. Which apparently no Leave vote actually believed. Apart from most.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 23:06

Bellini I very reluctantly voted leave. I based my vote on watching the EC for years. Previously a big fan, especially after studying EC Law. Couldnt give a fuck what the bus said, would never vote UKiP and can’t stand BJ. Believe what you want. The U.K. is heading For a melt down but you keep banging on about those awful leavers.

bellinisurge · 25/11/2018 07:56

The UK is heading for a meltdown with No Deal. We should avoid this whatever it takes.
We all apportion blame for this. It's natural to do this. The job we all have now is avoiding No Deal.
If it makes No Dealers see sense I will happily say they were all sensible clever people who had the best interests of our country at heart. True patriots. Whatever. Just avoid No Deal.

Moussemoose · 25/11/2018 08:12

The issue with poor communities struggling with immigration is about austerity not immigration.

U.K. governments could have applied the rules differently but the hub of the problem is the lack of funding in education, policing, social work the NHS caused by austerity.

There are massive problems in some communities in the U.K.. leavers on this thread keep on saying no one cares about them.

The truth is exactly the opposite. Brexit won't make me rich but I will manage secure job, low mortgage, kids studying for professions. I could quite easily not care.

The reason I am invested in this issue is because I do care about these communities and the poor will suffer the most. Leavers wave their working class credentials around while selling the poor down the river.

Leading the EU will make the U.K. a worse place for poor people.

lonelyplanetmum · 25/11/2018 10:13

You had a typo there Mousse

Leaving the EU will make the U.K. a worse place for poor people.

Leading the EU, if we had actually done that, could have made the U.K. a better place for both rich and poor people. But instead of leading it we chose to send thorns in the side like Farage obsessed with one issue only.

Moussemoose · 25/11/2018 10:18

Freudian slip?

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 25/11/2018 11:27

WHY would any Leaver respond ?

You lot rip into them at every given opportunity

1tisILeClerc · 25/11/2018 11:32

Whentherabbits.
I am not sure about this particular thread but on others if a 'Leave' voter can put up a point that is not proven to be untrue, they are listened to.
If 'Leavers' continue to tell lies what is anyone supposed to do.
Get some facts right and anything can be discussed.

surferjet · 25/11/2018 11:32

CatherineTheLate answered every single question in detail giving her reasons, which are all valid.
What happened?
An extremely prolific remainer dismissed every single answer. Happens every time.

And they wonder why leavers don’t bother.

frumpety · 25/11/2018 11:36

From watching the news this morning, the thing I picked up on is that the dialogue is very much 'this what they (leavers) voted for, this is what the referendum result meant'. The government laying the blame in a roundabout fashion squarely at the door of said leave voters.

frumpety · 25/11/2018 11:39

A friend said something last night that made me think, she said no deal will be shit, doesn't matter if you think you voted the right way or the wrong way, won't protect you from the shitness one little bit!

lonelyplanetmum · 25/11/2018 11:48

An extremely prolific remainer dismissed every single answer.

But if it's a convincing 'dismissal of every single answer', then the Remainer's points are better surely.

1tisILeClerc · 25/11/2018 12:03

The UK is leaving the EU.
Seems a strange case of 'sore winners'. Please can someone explain that.
If Surfer's comment was about me, I had not picked Catherine's piece to bits, merely suggested that there are elements that cannot be substantiated. Lack of reference articles and links don't help the discussion either, a common trait among Leavers.

Moussemoose · 25/11/2018 12:04

I responded to her point about sovereignty but got no response.

Moussemoose · 25/11/2018 12:07

@WhentheRabbitsWentWild why would leavers respond? Because that's the point of a debate.

Similar thread for remainers posing the question why do you want to remain? Loads of responses.

Why are the rules different?

lonelyplanetmum · 25/11/2018 16:01

Similar thread for remainers posing the question why do you want to remain? Loads of responses.

Why are the rules different?

That's what gets me. I really want to believe the relinquishing EU membership is a path to greater prosperity for all. I want to be persuaded.

I want Leave politicians and voters to show me that by ditching the EU our economy will rise from its previous 5 th world ranking to 4 th or 3 rd or higher.

The stark reality is that there is no evidence of this starting to happen. There aren't loads of factual, persuasive, substantiated convincing answers from Leave politicians (nor from Leave MN posters). This leads me to believe that the Brexit supporters' direction and strategy is based on a feeling, and that isn't good enough.

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