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Brexit

A little quiz for leavers mainly, but anyone may answer

431 replies

PrincessMargaret · 22/11/2018 22:14

If you voted leave, please answer at least three of these, it must include #6.

  1. Can you name a bad EU law?
  2. What will you do outside the EU that you couldn't do inside the EU?
  3. How will WTO tariffs keep us competitive?
  4. How will border controls keep our lorries moving?
  5. Why would any Multinational stay in the UK with tariffs, mountains of “country of origin” paperwork, and border hold ups?
  6. How can you solve the Northern Ireland problem?
  7. The EU citizen Hostile Environment. We now have twice as many NON EU immigrants coming to the UK to work than EU, how is that better?
  8. Under WTO rules any one of 163 countries can hold a trade deal up for years, is that taking back control?
  9. Trade deals take 8 years on average, what do we do in the meantime?
  10. Where do you get your information from, ever thought there may be a hidden agenda?

Very interested to see the responses.

OP posts:
Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 18:17

I didn’t say you were rich bellini, I hope you weren’t talking about me.

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 18:25

{My friend is an EU immigrant from Poland and guess what he agrees. He says free movement let’s in people in that are no benefit to the host country.}
That's why the rest of Europe says that to stay longer than 3 months you have to have a job or income to be self supporting for at least a year (equating to around £10K in the bank). To be allowed to 'reside' in Belgium and others you have to register with the local mayor or whoever to get a job and accommodation. Failing to use the rules available is not a 'get out' clause.

Councils and police not doing their job, you need to make a bigger stink to get action.

Bowchicawowow · 24/11/2018 18:30

Funniest post I have seen in years blaming people for not taking the police to task Grin The Police want to help but have no money and no resourcesHmm

bellinisurge · 24/11/2018 18:35

And they don't have money because.....don't tell me you've fallen for the "it's because of EU membership " lie spun by disaster capitalists . They will benefit from chaos.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 18:36

Imissgmichael read the Liberty report and you might appreciate just how many people whose faces don’t fit are getting sucked in.

Far from intentionally trying to evade the rules, people often become undocumented because they’re unable to scrape together ever-increasing application fees, challenge poor Home Office decision-making, or pay a solicitor to help them keep up with rapidly changing immigration rules.

The hostile environment is by its very nature discriminatory, so it is no surprise that it encourages discriminatory – even racist behaviour. Preliminary evaluations of some of the measures suggests that BAME and visibly “foreign” people are more likely to be asked for proof of their entitlement to services than white British people.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 18:47

Buteo please don’t pay the racist card with me it makes you look silly.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 18:56

I know that it's fashionable to sneer at the UK, but how many people realise that despite having a large service sector, we were also the seventh largest manufacturer in the world in 2016 and are moving up in the table? In fact, we are the second largest manufacturer in the EU.

We are 9th in the world currently, and 4th largest in the EU. We are moving down in the table. And our biggest manufacturing sectors are food and drink, chemicals and pharmaceuticals, transport, all of which could be hit with hard brexit.

Of our exports, £12 billion goes to China, £43 billion goes to the US, £115 billion goes to 7 EU countries (France, Germany, Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Italy).

www.eef.org.uk/campaigning/campaigns-and-issues/manufacturing-facts-and-figures

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 19:00

{Funniest post I have seen in years blaming people for not taking the police to task grin The Police want to help but have no money and no resources}
The EU isn't stopping an enlargement of the police force, it is the UK government. A certain Mrs May was in charge quite recently (Home Office), maybe take it up with her?
Object to the council's indifference?, picket, protest, refuse to pay council tax.
France has has 2000 road blocks over the last week protesting about fuel costs.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 19:07

Oh dear LeClerc your sounding desperate. The truth is that if it wasn’t for the EUs open door policy my old neighbourhood wouldn’t now be a cesspool of depravity (unless your a fan of without borders prostitution).

HoustonBess · 24/11/2018 19:13

Brexit is about emotion, not trade. Let's face it, most of us know nothing about trade, we're just parroting what we've read. We've all made an emotional decision about Brexit, probably based on the media we access and the type of lifestyles we have.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 19:14

Imissgmichael I’m not playing the racist card. That’s a direct quote from the Liberty report.

Sorry if it makes uncomfortable reading for you Hmm

Buteo · 24/11/2018 19:17

Actually I’m not sorry at all.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 19:31

Doesn’t make me uncomfortable at all Buteo and I don’t give a toss if your not sorry.

All countries have restrictions, why should the U.K. be any different. I can’t just turn up at my great grand fathers countries border or my in-laws country of birth and say let me in, despite my husband having dual citizenship.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 19:44

Ah, spectacularly missing the point then. Unless you think it’s fine that non-white UK citizens are being discriminated against.

I think you calling that “playing the racist card” and “silly” says more about you than it does about me.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 19:45

All countries have restrictions, why should the U.K. be any different.

The UK chose to make itself different by not applying the FoM rules that other EU countries chose to implement.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 19:46

Oh dear you’ve assumed I’m white.

Peregrina · 24/11/2018 19:49

No, Theresa May has just made such a mess up of it because as a Remainer, she doesn't want to leave.

Then why didn't David Davis step up when he was put in charge? He had virtually two years to do so.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 19:55

Oh dear you’ve assumed I’m white.

I haven’t assumed anything, other than you haven’t bothered to look at the Liberty report.

TheyBuiltThePyramids · 24/11/2018 19:56

The Eu doesn't HAVE an open door policy. It has free movement of Labour. The fact that the UK does not control this in the same way as most European countries is not the fault of the EU.

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 20:02

{The truth is that if it wasn’t for the EUs open door policy my old neighbourhood wouldn’t now be a cesspool of depravity }
If you are out and it starts raining, who do you blame for not having put a coat on?
Having 'antisocial behaviour' in your neighbourhood is UK police issue.

Lonelycrab · 24/11/2018 20:03

The UK chose to make itself different by not applying the FoM rules that other EU countries chose to implement.

This.....and:

Then why didn't David Davis step up when he was put in charge? He had virtually two years to do so.

This. Agree that this is all about emotion; facts seem to go in one ear and out the other with many leavers. Government policy of decimating police numbers has nothing to do with the EU either, but I guess it’s easy to blame someone else than look at the truth of the matter.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 20:04

And to get back to the original point, trying to deny that there is a hostile environment in the UK when the Home Office, under Theresa May, set up a Hostile Environment Working Group is ridiculous.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 20:08

Having 'antisocial behaviour' in your neighbourhood is UK police issue.

If only austerity hadn’t cut police budgets by 20% between 2010 and 2017.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 20:12

Iv read the Liberty Report can’t say I’m convinced it’s very one sided.

I’m more than well aware that the immigration problem isn’t all down to the EU. It’s not why I voted out either. However, it doesn’t alter the fact that many communities have been destroyed by EU immigration, whether it’s U.K. policies fault that’s exacerbated the problem is irrelevant. I can well understand why people in those areas voted out. Sneering comments about the uneducated racists, and yep iv heard that argument time and again, doesn’t help.

Oh and yes Buteo your righteous indignation shows you made certain assumptions.

Buteo · 24/11/2018 20:16

Ha, righteous indignation? No love, I’ll leave that to you.

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