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Brexit

A little quiz for leavers mainly, but anyone may answer

431 replies

PrincessMargaret · 22/11/2018 22:14

If you voted leave, please answer at least three of these, it must include #6.

  1. Can you name a bad EU law?
  2. What will you do outside the EU that you couldn't do inside the EU?
  3. How will WTO tariffs keep us competitive?
  4. How will border controls keep our lorries moving?
  5. Why would any Multinational stay in the UK with tariffs, mountains of “country of origin” paperwork, and border hold ups?
  6. How can you solve the Northern Ireland problem?
  7. The EU citizen Hostile Environment. We now have twice as many NON EU immigrants coming to the UK to work than EU, how is that better?
  8. Under WTO rules any one of 163 countries can hold a trade deal up for years, is that taking back control?
  9. Trade deals take 8 years on average, what do we do in the meantime?
  10. Where do you get your information from, ever thought there may be a hidden agenda?

Very interested to see the responses.

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surferjet · 24/11/2018 16:45

Well exactly - it’s the poorest people of the UK who suffered most from FOM but remainers don’t seem to want to talk about that.

Fattymcfaterson · 24/11/2018 16:52

Try telling people in the building trade that freedom of movement hasn't affected their jobs.
I gave my story a while ago on here about exactly that and was told I was talking crap and that doesn't happen 😂 😂
Who knew my life was a fucking fairytale

surferjet · 24/11/2018 16:54

Chaos capitalism, rich fucks like JRM and BJ want the country in a mess

Can you name me a prominent remainer MP who isn’t also rich as fuck?

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 16:57

Who are all these undocumented people Buteo ( ignoring the monumental mistakes made with regards the Windrush Generation)? Do you mean illegal immigrants?

Moussemoose · 24/11/2018 17:00

There is rich - well off on an MPs salary - and there is aristocratic.

Biiiiggggg difference.

FOM has not caused poverty in Germany - could it be it is the fault of the National governments? Denmark managed without austerity and UC could it be it is the fault of our government? The building trade in many other countries manages quite well under FOM.

It is the fault of U.K. governments clearly and obviously.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 17:00

Poor people don’t matter Surferjet, that’s very, very clear from some of the remain voters comments.

surferjet · 24/11/2018 17:03

Other countries haven’t got the generous benefits system we have here, plus the nhs.
We’re more of a ‘jewel’ than many other EU countries.

Fattymcfaterson · 24/11/2018 17:07

There are people literally camped at calais trying to get here, does that not show you that more people want to be here rather than France?! And obviously those are the people without freedom of movement. We are an attractive place to live apparently!

surferjet · 24/11/2018 17:11

If other EU countries are so great why are migrants risking their lives every day to get to the UK? 🤔

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 24/11/2018 17:11

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1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 17:23

Other EU countries use the immigration rules and apply them. It is near impossible to walk into a country and get a decent job and housing.
Germany has accepted many tens of thousands and their economy has been boosted because of it.
Of course the reasons why people become immigrants covers a whole range of possibilities. Some because they don't like being blown up in their home country, some because work is scarce.

CatherineTheLate · 24/11/2018 17:29

Regulations and Directives do not need to come before the EU Parliament, they can go through the Council or Commission so there's no need for negotiation and member countries have to obey them.

mummmy2017 · 24/11/2018 17:34

Didn't Germany have low birthrates and need the InFlux to pay taxes to cover the old?

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 17:36

I grew up in a historically working class area in the north. Back to back terrace houses where the same families had roots. My parents and grandparents grew up and mostly stayed in the same area. You get the idea. Over the years, Asian and Caribbean immigrants had also moved to the area and planted roots. Fast forward and Eastern European’s moved to the area. No problem, I saw this as positive. Except now the whole area is a no go area due to east European prostitutes and their east European pimps. Children aren’t allowed to play out or walk home alone from school. My SIL who works nights no longer walks home from work as she’s sick of being propositioned and intimidated. Complaints have been made. Concerns have been raised about the these poor vulnerable women being prostituted, some who are very young. The council and police don’t give a toss.

How do you thing the residents voted? You can say the problems nothing to do with membership, but can you blame them for voting out. It’s all very well worshipping on the EU altar but for many your rose tinted view of membership isn’t reality.

bellinisurge · 24/11/2018 17:44

Apparently Remain/Leave is a rich/poor thing? Ridiculous. My bloody bank balance and those of everyone I know who voted Remain tells a different story.
The influx of pimps and prostitutes is a law enforcement issue.

Fattymcfaterson · 24/11/2018 17:47

The influx of pimps and prostitutes is a law enforcement issue

Or maybe, just maybe, they wouldn't be there if it wasn't so bloody easy for them to come here through freedom of movement.

Most remain voters, voted remain, as they didn't want things to change, and thats fine! In their world nothing needs to change. But in others it does, not being able to comprehend that is rife here

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 17:53

{The council and police don’t give a toss.}
Well it is the resident's duty to take them to task.
Zero tolerance for prostitution and all law breaking, or at least the ones causing the misery. Why do these councils and the police get away with it?

CatherineTheLate · 24/11/2018 18:00

1tisILeClerc

I know that it's fashionable to sneer at the UK, but how many people realise that despite having a large service sector, we were also the seventh largest manufacturer in the world in 2016 and are moving up in the table? In fact, we are the second largest manufacturer in the EU.

The countries above us are:

China
USA
Japan
Germany
India
South Korea

BakedBeans47 · 24/11/2018 18:00

That the government didn't even bother to plan AT ALL for the outcome is not the fault of the leave voters

Well this much at least is true. If there was going to be a ref at all it should have been now, once we know what we’d be voting for.

Have any leave voters ever considered that the fact that even after 2.5 years the deal they thought they wanted hasn’t happened means that it’s not possible? Some things just aren’t possible, and saying “it’s the government’s job” to make it so doesn’t help that.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 18:02

But not all those people living in my old area are poor, just working class and they don’t matter.

My friend is an EU immigrant from Poland and guess what he agrees. He says free movement let’s in people in that are no benefit to the host country. But hey I suppose if you live in an area where immigrants are qualified people or otherwise law abiding hard working people everyone else can just suck it up. I’ll tell my SIL that the next time s pimp or punter shouts disgusting racist and sexist abuse at her. I’m sure she will understand.

bellinisurge · 24/11/2018 18:02

Plenty needs to change in my world. How patronising to think it doesn't! How patronising to think I must have loads of money because I voted Remain!
It's just that the things that are wrong with my world - are nothing to do with the EU. And if someone tells me that the things I don't like now are going to get better after we leave, they are liars.

CatherineTheLate · 24/11/2018 18:10

Anna Soubry is pretty well off and so is her partner, Neil Davidson. I don't lie awake at night worrying where her next penny will come from.

Imissgmichael · 24/11/2018 18:13

Oh for goodness sake leclerc they have been taken to task but is still goes on.

God help us if we have a 3WW that doesn’t involve just pushing buttons. Our politicians have the spines of a jellyfish. I really do despair.

CatherineTheLate · 24/11/2018 18:15

"Have any leave voters ever considered that the fact that even after 2.5 years the deal they thought they wanted hasn’t happened means that it’s not possible?"

No, Theresa May has just made such a mess up of it because as a Remainer, she doesn't want to leave.

The EU have been amazed at how easy it has been to push her around. Anne Widdecombe and especially Arlene Foster would have negotiated a much better deal.

1tisILeClerc · 24/11/2018 18:16

Catherine
I am in the 'service sector' and 'Leavers' have made my work in the UK near impossible. Thanks a bunch. Forgive me if I am not sympathetic to you.

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