A little quiz for leavers mainly, but anyone may answer

[PrincessMargaret]

If you voted leave, please answer at least three of these, it must include #6.

1. Can you name a bad EU law?
2. What will you do outside the EU that you couldn't do inside the EU?
3. How will WTO tariffs keep us competitive?
4. How will border controls keep our lorries moving?
5. Why would any Multinational stay in the UK with tariffs, mountains of “country of origin” paperwork, and border hold ups?
6. How can you solve the Northern Ireland problem?
7. The EU citizen Hostile Environment. We now have twice as many NON EU immigrants coming to the UK to work than EU, how is that better?
8. Under WTO rules any one of 163 countries can hold a trade deal up for years, is that taking back control?
9. Trade deals take 8 years on average, what do we do in the meantime?
10. Where do you get your information from, ever thought there may be a hidden agenda?

Very interested to see the responses.

But normal people are not happy with ? the UK government.

The EU has helped make the U.K. more prosperous. It is Successive U.K. governments that have not distributed the wealth fairly.

'Turning the whole thing upside down' is not going to mean more money for the NHS, state schools, and the poorest in society.

"I want things to change, I want the no deal, I want the whole dam lot to be turned upside down, so our government are Forced.. To make changes. "

Yup, and you voted for the people who will make things worse for you.

"We have nothing to lose, do you understand that. "

Except the welfare state that supports you, employment and saftey laws.

You have everything to lose, and under the hard exit you crave you would lose even more.

Right now I don't care.
I am so fed up of nothing ever changing that I no longer give a dam about the damage, I want such a massive change that all hell breaks lose...
The latest deal is a pile of crap..
Let's just leave and deal with the mess, and the change I want will happen...
After all Financial Services are not Covered but that has been hushed up. But is our biggest earner.

Great idea mummmy

I’m sure that will work out splendidly.

Poor paying jobs, rent that is over half our income, UC

It is indeed shit. But why on earth would you think that by voting leave you are going to experience any improvement in those circumstances ? Look at who has been in power and ask yourself what have they actually done to improve things ?

"I am so fed up of nothing ever changing that I no longer give a dam about the damage, I want such a massive change that all hell breaks lose..."

You're going to lose more than anyone else, the poorest always get hit hardest.

The people you voted for, and who will run brexit thunk people like you are in your situation through your own doing. They regard you as an underclass. They exploited you when it was convenient but will tell you to fuck off back under your stone now.

They don't care, never have, never will. Look at their voting records

"Financial Services are not Covered but that has been hushed up"

Financial services are covered in the regulations agreements, about 15% of business may have to relocate but 85% of the business that is done with the EU may remain in London, its a win.

You want to leave without a deal? WTO rules don't include financial services, the city would fucked.

May’s deal allows continued access to the EU financial markets during the transition period though, as well as easing access for manufacturing.

No Deal cuts everything off immediately, so I can’t believe why anyone in their right mind would be advocating this?

Labour are a not trustable...
Torys... DC And TM. Both dending over to EU...
Liberals... Anyone know where they are...

So Ten million plus people who if asked feel just like me will tell you.... We have nothing to lose by leaving... We know that this way things will change... No we do not know details but 100% sure change will arrive and the thought of this is not frightening it is exciting....

But it's only ' exciting' if there's a chance of a positive change.

Is the prospect of a (very) negative change also exciting?

Surely a change that sees our economy decline and will be felt most by those with no financial cushion is massively worrying, not exciting.

You do know there are people who voted leave who want no deal who have degrees and masters, who work in places that do see the figures and papers, who say the oppersite to that.
That we can and will flourish out of the EU.... Why do you think this is?

{I am so fed up of nothing ever changing that I no longer give a dam about the damage, I want such a massive change that all hell breaks lose...}
In that case get of your sorry backside and ORGANISE something.
France has has 6 or 7 days of protests over fuel prices (as it started) but things have got a bit out of hand. 290,000 were involved in the protest across France and even in Reunion (vaguely near Johannesburg).
Sadly a couple have died in accidents and you will have seen the protest on TV particularly the incidents in Paris.
If you sit at home and whinge about UC being crap, the government will just ignore you and like whichever politician said it 'there is hardly any poverty in the UK despite the UN (?) report.
Mummmy and Surfer, chain yourselves to the railings at Westminster and take your 17.4 million supporters with you.
Don't worry, BoJo sold the watercanons, losing £300,000 and you would vastly outnumber both the police and army combined.
The Pankhursts didn't just say 'oh it's a bit nippy out now, I'll put the kettle on'.

I don't need to do that, I did it before the vote and it worked...
I do work, but my rent eats up so much of my wages, it is untrue.
Doing something, moving house to cheaper area... New job...
But still I want this.
It is change, not the end of the world, to leave the EU.

In a relationship you are allowed to leave...
The EU is not our owner.

As a strategy for improving your prospects, choosing Leave and expecting the shake up to end positively was a pretty stupid one.

Hardly experts support it, actually. This is why Gove tried to belittle them all.

Most people who know their industry, trade experts specialists, call them what you will have issued stark warnings.

Here's a few examples:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/0620/796856-brexit-economists/

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https://www.insuranceage.co.uk/insurer/3699446/insurance-experts-warn-on-brexit-deal

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https://www.thecaterer.com/articles/534465/food-and-drink-federation-calls-for-urgent-meeting-with-government-over-no-deal-brexit

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/03/mark-carney-says-risk-of-a-no-deal-brexit-is-uncomfortably-high

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-trade-deal-latest-uk-motor-industry-customs-union-warning-cbi-paul-dreschler-a8396366.html

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https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/10/23/health/science-uk-brexit-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45626881--

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http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/317613/rising-costs-and-brexit-warning-over-future-uk-hotel-profitability

Your trying to imply nobody who works at the top levels of Government, industry or education supports leave...
That doesn't work as an argument... You do know that right.

Leavers are 'rejecting' the EU.
Why aren't they at the ports picketing and preventing foodstuffs from the EU coming in.
Boycotting all NON UK food in the supermarkets.
Maybe they are sufficiently hypocritical that they are happy to eat EU cake?

We are not saying we don't want cake, that they still wish to sell... By the way.

Pretty stupid example... You gave.

@surferjet Even though the deal was accepted by the EU, I just want to point out that yes, one country can, in fact, veto the whole thing. The EU is designed that way.

Guess that's one of the ways the UK got it wrong, was not every fully educating its people about the EU's principles. To be honest, how many people actually know how the UK parliament works? I remember being in the sixth form in Surrey and no one in my year being able to tell our teachers how laws are made and passed.

Me, the immigrant, had to tell them. I think that speaks for itself.

"Nobody who works at the top levels of Government, industry or education supports leave..."

Well actually the vast majority of them don't.

Its a very small cabal of disaster capitalists, businessmen with singular interests and skewed ideals, and one or two ( yes really) economists, virtually no civil servants think so. Most people in industry, the financial markets, the SSMT, the CBI, the IOD, the farmers union and many more back remaining.

There is no good intellectual case for leaving backed by big support from industry, education or government.

You do know there are people who voted leave who want no deal who have degrees and masters, who work in places that do see the figures and papers, who say the oppersite to that.

Pretty much every economist not called Minford reckons No Deal would be disastrous to the UK economy.

{Pretty stupid example... You gave.}
It was a form of 'quote' from 'have your cake and eat it', not literally cake. You do need to keep up with the plot.
Maybe it is 'leavers' lack of critical thinking that has got us into this mess?
Britain being a great superpower again, great idea, I'll have some of that. Now explain where the materials and skilled workforce will come from that weren't already busy in the UK.
Meanwhile, lets get rid of the top scientists from Europe that we collaborate with.
And you are hinting that I am stupid?

"You do know there are people who voted leave who want no deal who have degrees and masters, who work in places that do see the figures and papers, who say the oppersite to that."

I don't know one of one in the city, or civil service, or industry.

I know of a few in politics, but again they are serving their own agenda not what they think would be best for the country.

You left the stable door open, the horse bolted.
Did you bother to get out and campaign before the vote... No...
I did.
Did you knock on doors, offer lifts to the polls... No
I did.
Most of you sat in your homes and expected Remain to win.
You do understand that when they called your name and told you to stand up for what you wanted, for how you wanted life to proceed you were supposed to pick up the batton and fight with words to get your views heard.
Now you cry unfair, let's vote again, I didn't want this.... Tough... Your reaping what you sew....

Tough... Your reaping what you sew....

That's a kind compassionate attitude there. But the ultimate irony is that it is the already struggling who are at the highest risk of reaping what was sowed.