AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

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I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

bellinisurge - "But we need the paperwork in place to import those bananas. And if we have No Deal we have no deals anywhere. Including with whichever countries we import bananas from. Until we sort out a deal. Which may take years, months at best."

me: "Hello Mr Ffyffe, I would like to buy some bananas please? A whole banana-boat load, just like I've done every week for the last 100 years"
Mr Ffyffe: "OK Mr OutsideInTheGarden. we can do that, we export bananas all over the world, both to EU and non-EU countries. You're in the EU right?"
Me: "No we left last week"
Mr Ffyffe: "Ok, no problem, I won't use the green-EU form, but the yellow non-EU form. The boat is leaving the dock, the bananas are on their way. Thank you for doing business with us"
Me: "Thank you Mr Ffyffe. Bob, there's a yellow form coming your way, put it in the yellow, non-EU pile."

bellinisurge - are you aware that an Act of Parliament has been passed, transcribing all current EU laws into UK law on 29th March 2019?
The legal stuff is sorted.

But we don't have the yellow non-EU form yet. And it may take some time before we do. By which time Mr Ffyfe will have made a better deal with another customer who gets it cheaper.

@OutsideInTheGarden - trade deals haven't been transposed into UK law.

bellinisurge - so Mr Ffyffe is going to say "Yes we have no bananas" and leave them to rot on the dock. Perhaps he's going to convince the Germans to triple their bananas consumption? They're going to get a bit sick of bananas in Germany then. I suppose they could stick them in a bun and call it a banana-wurst.

bellinisurge - the UK has submitted schedules to the WTO and the current deals we have will be lodged post-Brexit, pending renegotiation (if any). Trade is not going to be particularly disrupted on March 30th. It's not as if crack troops from the WTO will be rappelling down ropes from helicopters and commandeering ships heading for the UK.

Get a grip, remainers!

Did they earn £3,000 from their summer job?

Probably not, but enough for a comfortable deposit. Why I even knew a group of students who got together to buy a terraced house between them. I don't know how it worked in the end when it came to finishing their course, but £750 each between 4 was perfectly doable.

the UK has submitted schedules to the WTO and the current deals we have will be lodged post-Brexit, pending renegotiation (if any). Trade is not going to be particularly disrupted on March 30th.

Get a grip yourself. A number of countries have also objected or expressed concerns - Russia, New Zealand are two that spring to mind. Not rushing to roll over existing deals with us, as you would know if you read about the issues. Why is May telling supermarkets and pharmaceutical companies to stockpile, if it's all going to be so hunky dory? So much so, that the warehouses have now run out of space to let.

@OutsideInTheGarden has shown their true colours on another thread. I explained that my parents were in the war and had the medals to prove it. This dickwipe asked "which side?". Goady fucker likes to insult WWII veterans to make a point. Nice.

Ref Bananas.. not as easy as Outside suggests.

trade-knowledge.net/commentary/bananas-brexit-trade-policy-dilemmas-lie-ahead/

The legal stuff is sorted.

You are David Davis and I claim my £5.

Perhaps he hasn't read any history and realised how the Upper classes in the UK supported Hitler, or the Mail and it's screaming fascist headlines.

Canada and the USA, as well as NZ, have also raised objections to the proposed WTO schedules and won't rubberstamp them. Pesky Commonwealth and former colonies standing in the way of the British Empire 2.0 plucky UK

Shame too that the UK refused visas to the Moldovan WTO delegate and her team, part of the team discussing whether the UK would have access to government procurement projects

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/how-tiny-moldova-s-brexit-grudge-could-cost-u-k-1-7-trillion

Outside, meaningless argument. I very much doubt that when you talk about fruit pickers you mean people picking bananas. The UK crops you talk about are existing ones: strawberries, apples, asparagus etc.

Peregrina - "Get a grip yourself. A number of countries have also objected or expressed concerns - Russia, New Zealand are two that spring to mind"

What happens when a country has a dispute lodged against it at the WTO? Are the countries' ports blockaded and the population starved to death? Or perhaps a long-drawn out process is begun that takes years to complete and nothing happens. Yes that's it.
You surely are aware that the EU's own schedules are not ratified and the EU has disputes/complaints lodged against it at the WTO. Are EU ports blockaded? Are EU citizens starving?

peregrine - "warehouses have now run out of space to let."

It wouldn't be a very successful business if they permanently run at less than full capacity. Bit of a silly thing to be chilling all that empty warehouse space.
I read that ridiculous Grauniad article about 10,000 pallets of turkeys and 20,000 pallets of puddings being stored at the chilled warehouse. Turkeys and puddings needing to be stored in the run up to Christmas! Who would have thunk it?

I suppose you think the turkeys murder, pluck, gut and dress themselves on Christmas Eve with the help of Santa's elves?

bellinisurge - "OutsideInTheGarden has shown their true colours on another thread. I explained that my parents were in the war and had the medals to prove it. This dickwipe asked "which side?". Goady fucker likes to insult WWII veterans to make a point. Nice."

Haha! I've explained on that thread that my uncles' grandfather fought for the German side and that I have some quite anti-British Irish nationalist relatives (or at least they were in their younger days). Also my father and many uncles and cousins have served in the army and RAF (and all voted Leave actually).

You get upset at a tongue--in-cheek comment and then come running over here for and because you have singularly failed to rebut any of my valid economic arguments. Typical lefty, SJW, shouty behaviour.

UneccessaryFennel - "You are David Davis and I claim my £5."

I like it :-)

" singularly failed to rebut any of my valid economic arguments."

You haven't made any.

You begged the question on your efficiency quesiton.

You misused FDI data, and made fallacious comparisons.

You used a small part of a document about intra EU trade to make an erroneous claim

You didn't understand MFN within EU FTAs.

All of your arguments are littered with fallacious and erroneous points.

prettybird - "Canada and the USA, as well as NZ, have also raised objections to the proposed WTO schedules and won't rubberstamp them. Pesky Commonwealth and former colonies standing in the way of the British Empire 2.0 plucky UK

Shame too that the UK refused visas to the Moldovan WTO delegate and her team, part of the team discussing whether the UK would have access to government procurement projects "

...and the effect on the UK's ability to carry out trade will be...…...that's right, none.

that's trading using the disputed schedules

"and the effect on the UK's ability to carry out trade will be...…...that's right, none"

Well actually if the WTO rejects the current UK proposals for schedules and the UK has to resubmit some with less advantageous terms for the UK, yes it will effect the ability to trade.

That ELC degree has done you the world of good.

BTW you know under WTO terms, the NHS is a state subsidy?

DarlingNikita - "Outside, meaningless argument. I very much doubt that when you talk about fruit pickers you mean people picking bananas. The UK crops you talk about are existing ones: strawberries, apples, asparagus etc."

Sorry I can't really see the point in the UK importing large numbers of migrant workers to a high-wage and -general cost of living economy to pick pretty low-value strawberries by hand. Far better use of capital for the farmer to buy a farm in Poland (or wherever) and grow the strawberries there paying (relatively) low wages to native Poles who the farmer then doesn't have to house.

You obviously believe that it's economically and socially more efficient for the British farmer to harvest subsidies alongside strawberries using cheap foreign labour (often subsidised by tax-credits) offloading the externalities on the rest of UK society whilst laughing all the way to the bank.

We'll have to disagree on this one.

BorisBogtrotter - "All of your arguments are littered with fallacious and erroneous points."

Still not providing evidence, just assertions.

Assert away.