Brexiteers, if there was a 'People's Vote' how would you vote?

[millsbynight]

For me? I'd flatly vote No Deal.

Would others vote to stay in the EU or agree to Teresa May's deal?

Everyone I know who voted Leave would still vote Leave (the same goes for those who voted Remain) so I'd be really curious to see what the outcome of a 2nd referendum would generate.

Single
Perhaps a few minutes reading the Westminsterenders threads would be instructive, perhaps from a few months back where your assertions were carefully debunked.
The UK already had 'the best deals available' in many cases as part of the EU. Other countries, the ones with proper money, are being somewhat cautious about suggesting any 'new' deals. While the EU may be having 'issues' it has a population around 9 times that of the UK so is able to absorb some of the effects. Being forced by the actions of the UK to shell out billions is not making the situation any better.

Attempting to trade with the USA, Russia, China, India among others will only offer the UK 'poor' deals and plenty of 'extra requirements' like India wanting work visas for 100,000 workers a year IIRC.

jasjas1973 we are already a member of yhe wto as for licences I can see issues due to EU stubbornness but as they happily allow every other country access this wont come across well for them. I'll take my chances on trade deals and 100,000 visas pales into insignificance alongside the uncontrollable immigration from eastern europe.

Yes @tadpole39 absolutely agree.

I was curious to hear more from those who voted Leave what their decision would be now rather than those who voted Remain and will vote Remain again.

As for the Channel 4 poll.... almost entirely every single poll that was conducted in the lead up to the 2016 vote predicted a Remain win. I actually put a bet on Leave winning and won quite a bit of money.
I don't believe in opinion polls. They've been consistently wrong for many years (in politics anyway).

Single.
You really do need to keep up.
NO ONE trades on basic WTO rules. The UK trades on them AS PART of the EU and as such tariffs are around 3% for food IIRC. Basic WTO tariffs average around 15% to 20% and negotiating deals takes around 10 years, quite a while to wait. It was 100,000 visas for India alone, and Russia and others will also want visas too. Immigration could always have been restricted, but the UK gov couldn't be bothered, possibly because Tory (possibly other) farm owners were happier to hire Eastern European and other labourers, some without proper documentation to work effectively as slave labour, well below minimum UK wage.

1tisILeClerc without saying you're wrong I can find evidence to suggest everything you say is wrong in less than the time it takes to write this. Also your first sentence is hugely contradictory. As for immigrants even 500k would be an improvement I'd love to see the evidence that restrictions could have been placed.

I suspect that even if we could remain in the EU, the terms would quickly be altered so the various opt outs we have would disappear. We have done so much damage to ourselves by our belligerent attitude over the two and a half years, and then as soon as May or someone thinks we have an agreement to put forward and arch Brexiter or the DUP bob up to say NO.

I don’t think you are going to get lots of Leavers saying they’d vote Remain.

If they thought they wanted to Leave before and had reasons for that decision, none of those things that would influence their Leave ideas have changed. Sovereignty, borders, trade deals, open democracy - there has been no change.

Why do you imagine that they think they’ve made a mistake? Because it is difficult leaving? That’s not going to be an attractive reason to stay.

I can think of two categories of Leavers who might easily change their minds:

1. Those who voted Leave expecting that more money would go to the NHS. They must now be bitterly disappointed - far from more money and improvements, they are now being warned about stockpiling medication.
2. Those who thought we would have a Norway style agreement, and voted Leave on that basis - recollect that Daniel Hannan said, 'No one is talking of leaving the Single Market'.

Why do you imagine that they think they’ve made a mistake? Because it is difficult leaving? That’s not going to be an attractive reason to stay

No it isn't and no leaver should change their mind because its difficult.

They should consider changing their minds because the benefits of leaving just are not there.

There are few trade deals to be done with the worlds richest economies, we ve a small manufacturing sector in global terms and we are a relatively small nation and our 5/6th richest nation status is based on some very wealthy individuals and property, otherwise its around 23rd, look around you, our roads, transport, NHS, hardly top 5 world class!
Our fantastic services sector (80% of economy) already operates worldwide, there is no promised land.

We do best when we co-op with our nearest neighbours.

Leave. Whatever.

Leave before and leave still and no I don't need to explain why

The poll as a previous poster said its rubbish. All the polls predicted remain last time.

Leavers don't advertise their view as much. More people will vote leave after the EU attitude and reaction and also to protest the lack of follow through on a referendum

All we've heard for the past 12 months solid is how bad leave is going to be - the margin of the channel 4 poll was actually low considering that's the only view we've heatd

{Sovereignty, borders, trade deals, open democracy -}
The UK has always been 'sovereign'.
The UK has always had a method to control the borders, just the same as all other EU countries. Elsewhere, anyone wishing to stay more than 3 months in a country has to demonstrate that they have income either as savings or work, otherwise they have to leave.
Trade deals, The UK, through the EU already gets trade deals. In many cases dealing representing 500 Million is better than 60 Million.
Democracy, many 'laws' are produced by the UK alone. Some are shared with the EU and practically all that have emanated from the EU are ratified and enforces by the UK.
I said that no one trades on basic WTO rules. This is true.
The UK trades as part of the EU under the tariffs that the EU negotiated with other countries, so a tariff of 3% for selling a cow to China is the same 3% tariff that Germany would pay selling a cow to China. The WTO is a rules framework, it does not set the tariffs. These are done by lengthy and complicated negotiations for which 10 years is quite quick. I think it was Greenland took 3 years to negotiate fishing and that was the only subject up for discussion. The trade that the UK does is infinitely more complicated.
You doun't have to believe me, you could even research yourself and show the references to your findings. Much of this has been discussed on the Westminsterenders thread over the last 3 or more years.

Motheroffourdragons I'll say it firstly so far every forecast disaster hasn't happened. se
Secondly I believe the EU is close to collapse and being apart from that will be hugely beneficial

Single.
I appreciate you don't want to remain, but the EU is nowhere as near collapsing as the UK. The UK has not actually left the EU yet and if it weren't for many NDOs preventing many industries announcing their imminent departure the situation would appear rather more alarming.
The fact that major financial institutions (the ones bringing in big money) and even the likes of Jacob RM taking their money and business OUT of the UK doesn't suggest things will go well, on top of large chunks of EU based manufacturing on the way out.

The £ immediately lost value, and hasn't regained it. We dropped from being the 5th most prosperous country in the world to 6th or 7th depending on which criteria you use. Yes they were forcast and yes, they have happened. The European medicines agency is leaving, but we were told by Davis and Co that there was no reason why they should. Or are you going to tell us that these are figments of our imagination?

Were you told about the need to stockpile medications? Were you told about the possible need to get an international driving licence if you want to drive on the continent - not happened yet, but warned of.

Or howabout May prattling on about the country being open for business, but EU medical staff either leaving or not coming in the first place? Or going on about the easiest trade deals in history and May and Johnson going off to India with great fanfare, but scurrying back with considerably less publicity because trade deals = more visas, and May said no.

Yaralie thank you. It’s strange because after the vote I went to a neighbours party, we are all northern and middle class and all of us had voted leave. From what I could gather,we all felt our voice wasn’t heard in the north and everything was being governed by Europe and London and we felt marginalised. I didn’t anticipate the overall ramifications

Well you were told by the Camerons of the world and the Daily Mail that it was all the fault of the EU, but the vast majority of the UK's problems are home grown:
the underfunding of the NHS
a crisis of underfunding in schools
a broken housing market,
an insecure jobs market,
increased use of food banks not by the unemployed but by people in work who aren't paid enough.
Absolutely non of these were anything to do with the EU.

You are absolutely right - no one was listening, but who is listening now? Who is finding the money for the NHS, or schooling or making sure that medical and teaching staff aren't leaving in droves? Who is fixing the housing market? Who is tacking an insecure jobs market, making sure that a decent wage is on offer and zero hours contracts are banned? No one that I can see.

Well all I know is we’re in a shit load of trouble and I wish the referendum hadn’t taken place because we were woefully ill informed. I blame David Cameron

Would still vote leave.

I'd still vote leave deal or no deal.

@Beautifullydamaged

I'm northern and middle class too (although I worked my way there, My family is very much working class).

My family all made the same knee jerk vote to leave. Then attacked me when I politely questioned what they were thinking, and asked for my mums birth certificate so that I could get an Irish passport. It's not my fault that the facts disputed all their opinions, but apparently I was being "selfish".

They've now stopped reading newspapers entirely and won't talk about it.

They've clearly realised they've made a big mistake, but can't bring themselves to admit it. I suspect if their was a second vote they'd complain about it to save face, but quietly vote to remain.

Also northern and middle class. Also voted Remain.
A couple of Leavers in my family and I am surrounded by Leavers in my community.
They blab on with the usual tedious mantras about taking back control and shit but I get the feeling now they are just saying it for front and are bricking it like everyone else.