Westministenders: Deadline Day #1

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We have hit another Deadline Day.

As it stands, the EU are looking for more progress. May is digging in her heels by suggesting there is new a requirement for backstop to a backstop. The backstop to all intents and purposes is the GFA. So May is saying in effect, that the EU are forcing her to put in provisions to protect an international agreement we are signed up to, and if we breech it we risk peace in NI.

After lots of noise it seems that the Cabinet have decided to stick by May. For now.

The EU look like they are talking as if their meeting next month will exclude the UK and just go straight to No Deal planning.

There is also other talk of alternatives to allow the UK to stay in the customs union. But theres not much to that and it still doesn't solve the ERG and the DUP problem.

May is vastly unestimating how much the ERG and the DUP want to break the GFA. Which is a huge misjudgment.

There is also talk of the final final Deadline Day actually being Dec 13. For various reasons its not. Thats 29th March.

So Wednesday is Deadline Day #1. Expect more.

Norway is a member of the EEA and so can trade most goods with its EU neighbours without customs duties being levied (with exceptions, such as agricultural products and food).

Norway is also part of the Schengen area.

Will this be true of the UK, including Northern Ireland, after Brexit?

If not, the Norway - Sweden border is irrelevant as a pattern for the UK / ROI border.

BCF - Efta, EEa etc.. all rather pointless if we can't make our own trade deals outside of EU oversight

The Good Friday Agreement referendum was held simultaneously in NI and the RoI

NI had a majority of 71.1% in favour.
RoI even bigger majority of 94.4% in favour

NI voted for Remain

The DUP at the 2017 GE had about ¼ million votes
It is perverse to allow them to specify what kind of Brexit the other 65 million people in the UK can have

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now that is just pure spin

Peter Mandelsen would be proud of you!

post was refering to BCF's previous one

Hazard: time to get over it and move on!

let the country heal, stop trying to throw a wrecking ball into the works

we had the vote, Leave side won, let democracy take it's course

or do you want another NI in mainland UK?? that's what went down there, ie. people IGNORING the democratic process time and again

LIsten to Gerry Adams , he talks sense on this matter!
Not like Remains's poster boy Clegg - who has SOLD OUT ON YOU yet again!

Let us not forget the Wooferendum Pups are out there again today as well. VIPs they are Very Important Pups or Very Important Protesters

trees There is always a tradeoff between how frictionless trade is and how regulated the parties have to be, to enable this.

A Customs Union alone means long unpredictable delays, which would not be sufficient to keep much of the UK's JIT manufacturing going.
That needs the Single Market too.

In an FTA with e.g. the USA, the UK would certainly have to lower its rules on food standards for imports, which would make trade deals with other countries much more difficult and restricted

The Brexiters' chief economist, Prof Minford, has stated clearly that their aim of free trade with the world
would mean - as collateral damage - the destruction of the UK's mass manufacturing and farming / agriculture

Minford was one of the chief economists behind Mrs Thatcher's de-industrialisation of the North-East in the 1980s
Unemployement spiked 2 million.
The jobs that replaced them were much lower paid and less secure

threetrees hun, if you think I will ' get over' the 200 med stockpile by private companies that may or may not include my DP's meds then I don't think you understand how much I love DP.

Efta, EEa etc.. all rather pointless if we can't make our own trade deals outside of EU oversight

That’s just plain wrong

EFTA makes its own trade deals, independent of the EU.

Live march updates from independent www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/peoples-vote-march-live-updates-brexit-referendum-eu-deal-westminster-london-latest-a8593261.html

Let's be having EU

The NI civil rights movement arose because Catholics were oppressed by the Protestant majority:
they were prevented from fair access to jobs, public housing, even voting the constituencies were gerrymandered.

The police were used as often violent tools of that opression.
Many atrocities by the security forces, such as Bloody Sunday ramped up the Troubles
So did Internament without trial

The violence did NOT happen because there was a 2nd vote on something

As David Davies said: if you can't change your mind, then you are not living in a democracy
(unfortunately, he only meant that about the 1975 referendum. The 2016 is apparently sacred because his side won)

The 1975 referendum didn't stop people campaigning to Leave, almost before the ink was dry
If one party wins a GE, it does not mean the other parties cannot campaign and win the next GE

It is perfectly democratic to campaign to change a policy
Under the British Constitution, Parliament has the final say, on whether there is a 2nd referendum, or a hard / soft / no Brexit

Voters will express their views at the next GE
This is why the govt is shitting itself - trying to avoid the fallout from an economic post-Brexit recession

Great pictures 😂
Do post any good photos you take

LIsten to Gerry Adams , he talks sense on this matter!

You mean THIS Gerry Adams?

Sinn Féin’s outgoing president, Gerry Adams, has labelled Brexit a “disaster” for the island of Ireland.

Adams called for Northern Ireland to be granted special status to allow the region to remain within the customs union and single market after the UK leaves the EU.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/04/gerry-adams-brexit-disaster-ireland

Apparently the march reached Trafalgar square where the speechs are going to be...I wonder how our red tooth brusher/MNetter marchers are getting on

As a side note I hope at least every second person in the crowd packed blister plasters and will share, it looks like a long day for feet!

I wouldn't listen to Gerry Adams. He's a twat.

Dh & ds1 are at the march. He says the mood is great, huge turn out.

Wow 670000!! Wonder if it will be revised to being as large as the Iraq March?

And Jeremy Corbyn is also in neutral territory — Geneva.

Sorry, lowering the tone, but what a bastard JC is. grr.

Rather shocked that Nigel Farage would risk insulting the American flag:

"This is our flag, not some star spangled banner!"

March was amazing, great atmosphere! Unity and solidarity. We’re holed up in a cafe now feeling good about ourselves 😇