Westministenders: The Slow Reveal

[RedToothBrush]

The DUP are playing silly buggers.
The EU are getting nervous and turning down the pressure.
The ERG still want Schroedingers Brexit.
The Budget is coming. So is a government defeat or climb down.
The M26 is closing.

Keep thinking of the glorious freedom your blue passport will give up whilst you search waste tips.

I've suggested before that Sinn Fein can say the oath with a slightly different emphasis and punctuation
"I... swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance. To Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors-according to law. So help me God."

It doesn't make perfect sense this way but with this altered punctuation it can be interpreted that they'll bear true allegiance and be faithful to their role. Then the Queen and her successors should behave legally. That's ok surely?

< Waves at mrs >

SInn Fein won't tear themselves apart to rescue NI from Brexit.
The Irish Civil War taught Republicans not to let Britain divide and conquer.

More useful tactic: divide the DUP from most Unionists

EU makes direct appeal to Northern Irish firms on Brexit backstop

Meeting with regional business leaders aims to drive wedge between DUP and Theresa May
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/12/eu-makes-direct-appeal-northern-irish-firms-brexit-backstop

The EU has launched a direct sales pitch to Northern Ireland businesses in an attempt to drive a wedge between the Democratic Unionist party and Theresa May over the backstop solution for the Irish border in Brexit negotiations.

As the rhetoric from Belfast intensifies and the DUP restates its opposition to any checks on trade between Britain and Northern Ireland,
Sabine Weyand, the deputy to the chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, told a delegation of Northern Irish business leaders invited to Brussels this week
that the deal on the table was “the best the EU has ever offered any country in the world”.

She told them it would give Northern Ireland businesses “unfettered access” to both the single market and Britain and is a “really big deal” for the EU, according to those present.

The best of both worlds narrative is part of a fresh offensive by the EU to try to avert a no-deal by appealing directly to the hearts and minds of Northern Ireland interests.

< NI would be unique - in the SM and the UK - and could be a magnet for business that would bring back the glory days of NI as an Irish economic powerhouse. But not with the Party of NO at the helm. Pas time for the voters to boot them out >

I think the Graui got it wrong there in portraying it as trying to divide the DUP and May
The EU is appealing to business, to coax them away from both

M26 Lorry park is now definite
Are the BBC reporting this ? - it should be big news

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/11/second-kent-motorway-is-possible-post-brexit-lorry-park

A Kent motorway is undergoing a series of closures as work begins on turning it into a potential lorry park to deal with the possible impact of a no-deal Brexit.

In the most significant practical work yet to prepare for the consequences of the UK crashing out of the EU,
the M26 will be closed through the night until next week for site surveys before another set of closures in the month leading up to Christmas to install gates in the central reservation.

Thanks for that chary 'Lonely'.
If that had been bandied about a bit more earlier on to show how many opt outs we do get it might have helped negotiations.
What are 'symbols', that quite a few have opted out from?

It is naive to think Sinn Féin MPs would ever vote in Westminster. Put that hope out of your mind.

Thanks for sharing that Economist cover @RedToothbrush. Imo the next recession is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

Imo the next recession is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

Agreed.
You are trying to talk me out of buying a house now, if we do get a offer this week, aren't you?

gm.carto.com/builder/60267623-ba25-447c-911d-2fa6f4f71ff8/embed

Map of where ATM are opening and closing.

It might look like a fairly familiar pattern to you.

DS is moving abroad. I am tempted to say, thanks leavers for taking my grandson away, but in truth, he has been hoping to do this for some years, and is now going while he still has the chance.

But, this is where Brexit comes in - if he thought that his son had a chance of a good education, studying without debt, buying a house for a realistic price, then he would be thinking much harder about staying. Where are those easy deals and financial benefits the Brexiters promised?

DS was hoping to sell and move house. The job offer in the rest of the EU means that a revision of plans is in order.

But I now have a good excuse to open a Euro account. Thanks DS.

BBC business news with BMW saying they are putting £3 Billion into Chinese manufacturing in the next few years. Manufacture of electric minis being one. Part of the deal can't happen until 2022 but they will start ramping up in 2020. Announcement made yesterday, a coincidence?

From the last thread, which I suspect will get missed. It is not good news for the UK. In Oxford we voted Remain, so it's even more galling. You can't tell us it's what we voted for.

If only the people had understood this.. "There is no "they". We ARE the EU.

I thought about that when I had the row with DH. It's not what 'they' did to Greece, it's what we (UK Govt) went along with.

Although the BMW piece isn't necessarily Brexit, it does show what forward planning these companies are doing. It is over 3 years before the 'big' deal will be signed and then building a factory would come afterwards so they are thinking 4 years ahead.

Brexit may not always be the main factor in a firm moving abroad, or new business deciding not to come to the UK:

Where to invest for the future is often a finely balanced decision, with competing governments offering lots of different goodies.
Brexit brings the scales down hard on "Not the UK" for many businesses that want a site to export goods or services to the EU

I can see that BMW might see China as their potentially biggest market with scope for growth, so would build there anyway rather than ship cars half way around the world. It's hard though to to disassociate them with Brexit. They can't make sensible plans for the Oxford factory at present.

Finance director of crisis-hit Patisserie Valerie arrested

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/12/finance-director-of-crisis-hit-patisserie-valerie-arrested-chris-marsh

Finance director of crisis-hit Patisserie Valerie arrested
He's in custardy.
I said He's in custardy.

Anyone

.

bigchoc
BBC Today mentioned the M26 shutdowns in their round up of the papers at 06:40 this morning but by 07:40 it had gone from the report, replaced by some nonsense about pizza.
Not on BBC website but Princess Eugenie is. FFS.

They should just change the oath or give Sinn Fein an alternative. In court, don't you have the options of swearing on the Bible/God or a secular version? Why not in WM?

But anyway, they don't need to come to WM. I imagine they're sitting back and letting Brexit shunt them effortlessly closer to a united Ireland.