Westministenders: The Slow Reveal

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The DUP are playing silly buggers.
The EU are getting nervous and turning down the pressure.
The ERG still want Schroedingers Brexit.
The Budget is coming. So is a government defeat or climb down.
The M26 is closing.

Keep thinking of the glorious freedom your blue passport will give up whilst you search waste tips.

Someone who arrived 40 years ago and settled, may have few connections left alive in their country of origin
and that country would have massively changed - it would be foreign to them.

Yep that’s exactly what’s happening to my parents as they going back to France .
That’s what’s going to happen to me as I have been in the uk for most of my life now.
However, I have been told numerous times that was my ‘home’ so I’m not sure I will have the choice.

Re partners etc... I can’t generalise for all EU countries, but I can bring my spouse shouod I decide to, even if they are from a 3rd country. Actually H could get French citizenship quite easily (if he was pulling his finger out and was working on his French a bit more) just because we’ve been married for long enough. (Last time I looked, he didn’t need to live in France).
Immigration laws are not as bonkers in the eu than they are in the U.K. because they value family reunion and wouldnt want to destroy a family....

My DH was offered a Schengen passport as well, but he did not fancy applying for it in Hungarian. I do not blame him.

and even then, having dual citizenship means they could well still kick you out and take said citizenship away anyway...

What country would want to deal with one that does that to their own citizens? Only full blown fascist regimes do that. I refuse to believe the UK would ever be one.

Yes, basically the UK has sold the majority of the 'family silver' over several decades.
The fine mansions that were built 'way back when' which have been allowed to decay due to mismanagement of their owners. OK you could argue that they were private houses but so many are practically begging the National Trust and other organisations to preserve them.
If my house falls down it is MY responsibility to repair and maintain it and I don't expect anyone else to do this for me.

{ I refuse to believe the UK would ever be one.}
Sadly it may be time to start believing, however unicorns are out and sunny uplands are a long way off.

Babooshka assured me a few days ago that it cannot all be a dream. But then how do you explain the following:

1. Trump tries to fire John Kelly 'but Kelly just ignores him', White House official says

'I think the president just doesn’t know who to call to fire him,' claims staffer www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-john-kelly-fire-white-house-olivia-nuzzi-pence-pompeo-oval-office-a8578486.html

1. James Murdoch favorite to replace Elon Musk as Tesla chairman – report

www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/oct/10/james-murdoch-elon-musk-replacement-tesla-chair?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

The second story is basically Lex Luthor fighting for control with Ironman, but I don't know which one is which.

What country would want to deal with one that does that to their own citizens?

The U.K. already does that under the idea that those are people who are dual citizen (so they won’t be stateless) and are deemed a treat to the country (aka so called terrorist).
When you know that these terrorist laws have been used for everything rather than just terrorism, yu u can easily see how they could just strip you from the British citizenship.
After all, nowdays contacting HMRC to tell them youve made a mistake and want to pay more taxes is seen as a sign that you are not good enough to be british/don’t have ‘good character’ ....

don’t have ‘good character
Little children are being refused registration for 'good character' deficiencies too: 326 from 2010-15.
I can't imagine the numbers have gone down.
www.freemovement.org.uk/good-character-registration-british-citizenship-hiri-applied/

I see under the guise of "equality" the government is going to collect a lot of data on peoples ethnicities.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45818234

Not sure how this can work if there's no compulsion for an employee to provide their "ethnicity". I know I never have, and never will.

I refuse to believe the UK would ever be one.
Much the same would have been said about Germany pre 1933. "After all these people fought in WW1 for us and were as good a German as you and me", were the sort of things said. It changed.

No, the Germans weren't backward barbarians - they were highly educated and cultured, and it happened.

peregrina and others, I know I sounded very naive writing this... It came more from an emotional place than a rational one. 😣

My family has had a long and complicated history with Germany...

Plus the fact that I've sunk my savings into getting a status which in the fascist scenario would not help me much...
Too painful to consider- especially taking into account my ancestors losses caused by nationalism...

I can easily see how Civil Wars come about. DH has quite a large extended family - a couple of them it would appear are only happy when they are quarrelling with someone. Others though, who seem totally reasonable, have had bad fallings out, which have come almost out of the blue, leaving the rest of the family baffled, and saying that they never thought this of such and such, they always seemed so fair minded. Add something like Brexit to the mix, and it's a potential recipe for complete disaster.

Motheroffourdragons I meant Schengen passport, as in a passport issued by one of the members of the Schengen zone. And you are right, it does not matter once you are inside the Schengen zone.

No, the Germans weren't backward barbarians - they were highly educated and cultured

Arguably more so that the British that defeated them ?

The British didn't defeat the Germans.
They were part of a massive alliance from around the world that eventually managed it.

mother update on that M26 closures thingy. Looks like they've bowed to pressure to limit the closures?
www.kentonline.co.uk/tonbridge/news/chaos-warning-over-motorway-closure-191249/

Seems like a lot of work for something that is not supposed to be happening.
Each of the tech documents starts off with a page saying that deals will be done, but just in case here is what we are thinking you should do.

www.gov.uk/guidance/eu-settlement-scheme-pilot-applicant-eligibility?utm_source=5f1f1a94-ee20-4a78-bc46-4e4e6ddf750f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

EU in the UK scheme. I don't know how to make it a clicky link, sorry!

I note that the Government still hasn't sorted out its iPhone problem: you have to have access to an Android phone in order to be able to apply

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What's the story with the tech stocks in the US ?

The British didn't defeat the Germans. They were part of a massive alliance from around the world that eventually managed it.

I'd hope you'd know I knew that by now. It's an unfortunate shorthand needed in these Islands.

Thanks Red. 'Schroedingers Brexit.'

You've gotta laugh...