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Westministenders: Gin O'Clock

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RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 14:08

After disaster after Salzberg and a very predictable humilation over the Chequers Deal which the ERG reject, moderate Brexiteers reject, Remainers reject and the EU reject....

May does a press conference...

...which is delayed by a power shortage inside No. 10.

And....

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SwedishEdith · 21/09/2018 22:06

Javid is not nice. I keep repeating this from 'All Out War'. Sod you if you had the bad luck to be born in a poor country.

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Hazardswan · 21/09/2018 22:10

Thanks for that red you've just given me something new to bitch to my Labour MP about.

I'm starting to think labour means their labouring to deal with.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 22:10

And his decision today on Windrush.

God. Tory Party conference is gonna be FUN.

Just as you are in such despair over May, and start to think No One could be as bad, some comes along to remind you of the horrors of the sharks circling her.

And you want more gin.

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Hazardswan · 21/09/2018 22:16

Tory is a cute rebrand of Torture.

I stopped drinking hours ago I think it's still in my system

One thing I've learnt just when you think something can't get worse, it often does. So let none of us think it can't get worse

Banned.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 22:18

The Express dress today up as some sort of Churchillian moment.

I'm going to get rounded up and put in a camp for political subversion aren't I?

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2018 22:21

A cash handout would stave off civil unrest

unless the govt cocked up payments, so people were promised cash but did not receive it for weeks - 5 weeks like UC ? -
or if there were serious shortages so the cash wouln't buy much.

The handout could come from the Brexit magic money tree

The proposal to slash workers rights and pension contributions etc is horrifying, blatant opportunism 
Brexit at the expense of the workers
Maybe the cash payments are to distract from this ?

Mistigri · 21/09/2018 22:23

Javid is an evil person.

We should probably be glad that the Tory party is most likely too racist to elect him.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2018 22:24

Best to leave for your sabbatical asap, red

More subversion:

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2018 22:27

Javid is probably slightly less evil than the alternative - I hope so, as he is by far the cleverest
If he weren't of Paksitani origin I would absolutely bet on him being the next leader

I may decide to flush my UK passport down the toilet if Boris or JRM become leader.

SwedishEdith · 21/09/2018 22:31

Tom Newton Dunn

Excl: Bitter row with DUP left Theresa May unable to deliver progress to EU leaders in Salzburg – prompting her humiliation;

Sorry, it's the S*n.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7318775/brexit-chequers-pm-northern-ireland/

woman11017 · 21/09/2018 22:32

East Belfast.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2018 22:32

After May’s humiliation, Labour must seize the initiative on Brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/21/labour-brexit-referendum-corbyn-deal-election-party

This is a crisis for the government but it raises questions about Labour’s position, too.
If the EU won’t entertain May’s proposals, then the idea that a Jeremy Corbyn-led government could come to power and deliver a bespoke Labour Brexit before March 2019 is effectively out of the window.

If Labour came to power between now and March, the only offer it could make, both to the electorate and to the EU commission, would be an off-the-shelf Norway-style deal. < fine by me >

This would be exactly the same as EU membership < NO, it wouldn't >
the only difference being that Corbyn, the most radical head of government in Europe for decades, would have no voice.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 22:35

I don't like Arlene

I can not post what I would like to say here. Sweary words proving insufficient at this point

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2018 22:35

Woman ?

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2018 22:36

E Belfast ?

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 22:41

The guardian wrote an entire piece about the Labour position based on the premise of the vaguest of possibilities that there might be a GE before March.

They won't be.

It simply let's Labour off the hook for not being an opposition party now. Like right now. Like glaring silence tonight.

You DO have power as the opposition. Especially when the government majority is down to the bloody DUP.

But if you read the guardian you wouldn't think that.

It's all about theoretical scenarios instead.

Its fucking ridiculous.

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Mightybanhammer · 21/09/2018 22:42

Javid for next Tory leader. April 2019.

woman11017 · 21/09/2018 22:42

BigChoc
So much about the war in Ireland they want to weaponise again.......
More than we care to admit was learnt about state control, torture, internment without trial during it. All useful to them now.

I'm going to get rounded up and put in a camp for political subversion aren't I

SmallAndFarAway · 21/09/2018 22:44

A senior DUP source told The Sun: “We have told Theresa that we will never allow her to divide up the UK’s single market, and we will never budge on that”.

Funny how the DUP has no problems creating differences between NI and the rest of the UK when it comes to abortion for example - I know everyone here is aware of their blatant hypocrisy, but it still makes me unreasonably angry every time...

ShinyElena · 21/09/2018 22:47

Javid is basically a younger version of Johnson. There is nothing he would not give up for power. Other than worshipping Ayn Rand he has no principles.
He is ILs' MP and he does absolutely nothing for them.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 22:50

The DUP want a hard border then.

Just fucking admit it.

The DUP ceases to have any relevance the longer the GFA lasts. They have to restart the troubles. Take back control.

Corbyn wants the unions to have relevance again. So the destruction of workers rights rather suits him. He can have power over people that way, even if he's never PM. It's a fabulous Brexit opportunity to take back control.

And May. She does care as long as she's at number 10 and in control.

The Tory party just want to own everyone. And control people through money.

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OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 21/09/2018 22:51

small you and most of us here too Angry

Labour not stepping up now too Angry. The Tories are getting away with this shit precisely because there's no opposition at home. Not that there's anyone remotely challenging them, except UKIP which probably explains why they're being appeased above all else. So even more Angry

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 21/09/2018 22:55

A friend of mine said the other night that the border issue could be solved by money. I told him he needed to do some proper reading on NI. If money was the issue, peace would have broken out a long time ago without the GFA. He was quite shocked when I suggested Westminster's way is not everywhere else's way. He's a leaver BTW

woman11017 · 21/09/2018 22:58

Corbyn wants the unions to have relevance again.
I'm not sure about that red
The TUC are supporting an (impossible) Peoples Vote.

But I don't think Labour has not committed to repealing the 1992 Trades Union act which decimated TU power.
I don't think they will.
That and the repel bill in their hands.............
Achh...........

woman11017 · 21/09/2018 23:00

Should read:
'I don't think Labour has committed to repealing the 1992 Trades Union act'
Fordist fascism, in either red or blue.