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Westminstenders: Operation Yellowhammer 1q

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RedToothBrush · 09/09/2018 11:11

Boris Johnson is clearing the decks for a leadership challenge.

I guess that means that the Brexit we get all depends on what George, Michael and Boris decide over lunch and how good Operation Yellowhammer is.

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prettybird · 11/09/2018 19:30

But at least howabout tried to engage meaningfully Smile. I didn't always agree with her arguments - but she had thought them through. She would come up with actual facts to back up her arguments. I thought they were naive (eg wanting to allow more Commonwealth immigrants) but she argued a case.

Unlike the drivel we're getting now from trolls Leavers Hmm

1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 19:33

Oi, that's unfair putting pictures of yummy food on here!
I think I saw that the EU are already starting discussions of FoM. The countries with Mediterranean shorelines need help and it is obviously of considerable benefit to all to MANAGE immigration at least from outside the EU.
Had they got into gear 5 or more years ago things would be a lot better for everyone.

bellinisurge · 11/09/2018 19:34

Yummy food and birdwatching photos- love it!

TheElementsSong · 11/09/2018 19:36

I disagree that they're a troll. I believe they are, genuinely, a True BeLeaver and that everything they write is a truthful representation of the Leaver position. Namely, that they don't care if other people become poorly or lose their livelihoods, or suffer pain or hunger or possibly even death.

10degreestostarboard · 11/09/2018 19:45

Prettybird

Arrogance is declaring that leavers are the ones needing to make the arguments. Who died and appointed you the arbiter of what is right and good? The remain side had its say and that argument fell flat in 2016.

bellinisurge · 11/09/2018 19:46

Just getting better and better.

1tisILeClerc · 11/09/2018 19:47

It's good to see the Mogg so 'up' on the way customs and borders work.
Interview with SKY, 'a bit of friction is fine'!
1% or 4% of trucks inspected is fine for current situation but out of the EU it goes up to 100% or close.
No problem then.

TheElementsSong · 11/09/2018 19:48

Just getting better and better.

It's a fabulous look.

And, yes, I am honestly taking everything they say about Brexit at face value as a true representation of the Leaver position.

10degreestostarboard · 11/09/2018 19:51

Bitchy comments are fine, but I don’t hear anyone refuting my fact - 2016 marked the end of your moral high ground. Lots of people disagree with you and the scaremongering is pathetic

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2018 19:53

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bellinisurge · 11/09/2018 19:53

Nope. Still plenty of moral high ground here. What with reading crap about NI and dahling JRM.

TheElementsSong · 11/09/2018 19:55

This is becoming so incredibly beautiful Smile!

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 19:57

what it says about the future direction of election campaigning
That Goldsmiths twittery nuttiness reached parts that even we can't reach. You can fool some of the people etc.

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 20:05

I've got a bit of a crush on the Irish Border.

Westminstenders: Operation Yellowhammer 1q
BadderWolf · 11/09/2018 20:14

Who died and appointed you the arbiter of what is right and good?

I did. Prettybird is correct. Clean your own shit up, simple. HTH.

10degreestostarboard · 11/09/2018 20:29

Badderwolf - and that patronising whine is why you lost the 2016 vote

Hope that helps

BadderWolf · 11/09/2018 20:37

Sure. Now clean your own shit up and enjoy your whine Wine

BigChocFrenzy · 11/09/2018 20:37

I've always considered myself centrist - others mostly say I'm right of centre
Only with this Brexshit am I suddenly being called leftwing for the first time in my 62 years Confused

Trident is a white elephant for a country with such a small military and such a rundown infrastructure & public services.
Russia fights via cyberwars, which it is winning, not via its 7,000 nukes.

The problems the UK faces are inequality and too many desperate people in poverty, maybe voting the far left or far right into government.
Especially if there is a no deal Brexit which send the economy over the cliff edge

BigChocFrenzy · 11/09/2018 20:40

Lesvers and Brexiters need to put forward their plans, because they are the ones driving this Brexshit,
the biggest change to the UK since WW2

They own this clusterfuckl

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 20:44

On what you were saying earier about he nhs cat and hazard:

@doctor_oxford
BREAKING. Staggeringly bad latest figs on NHS vacancies. We are now short of:
42k nurses
11.5k doctors
108k staff overall
This government should hang their heads in shame. They are destroying our country’s greatest asset.

In 8 years, what they did to the country. It wasn't perfect but it was not broken in 2010.

They own this clusterfuck
Deporting and forcing out those who care for us.

Police are 20% down since 2010 too. They're trying to lure those who've left the force back in.

HermioneGoesBackHome · 11/09/2018 20:44

Well I’m all for the will of ‘the people.’
It seems that the will of the people NOW isn’t the same. Than in 2016. No surprise seeing that ‘the people’ keep changing their mind at each election.
Shall we listen to the will of ‘the people’ now? I mean that’s much more democratic isn’t it?

Ah but no. Leavers dont want that. They are too scared of loosing - or rather they KNOW they will loose. Wink

BigChocFrenzy · 11/09/2018 20:45

www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/sep/11/labour-would-introduce-biggest-extension-of-workers-rights-uk-has-ever-seen-as-mcdonnell-politics-live?page=with:block-5b97d775e4b0eb62112c5074#block-5b97d775e4b0eb62112c5074

Hammond says Brexiter claims about WTO option are 'not sustainable' and 'wildly out of line' with economic consensus

BigChocFrenzy · 11/09/2018 20:55

Side deals would legally have to be negotiated Post-Brexit by the EU Commission - not the individual members.
BUT The UK govt still doesn't seem to accept that other countries won't break legal treaties

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/11/uk-should-remain-eus-closest-ally-after-brexit-may-tells-cabinet

Dominic Raab has been reprimanded by Michel Barnier after the EU’s chief negotiator discovered the British government had written to the 27 other member states asking for side negotiations on transport in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

The Brexit secretary was confronted by Barnier during their most recent meeting in Brussels over correspondence sent in recent days to EU capitals by the Department for Transport.

The letters had asked the member states to prepare to engage with the British government in side deals on aviation and haulage, to allow key trade flows to continue in the event of the UK and the EU failing to come to an agreement on leaving the union by 29 March 2019.

The transport secretary, Chris Grayling, had ordered the letters to be sent despite being told less than two weeks ago by the European commission’s most senior trade official, Violeta Bulc,
that without a deal this autumn, there would be no other agreements made to protect the UK economy.

Barnier is said to have reiterated that message to Raab, telling the cabinet minister: “If there is no deal, there is no trust.”

woman11017 · 11/09/2018 21:02

BBC on the ERG creative writing assignment
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45488124

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2018 21:07

Adam Wagner @adamwagner1
I stand re-corrected. For some reason, Dianne Abbott has indeed blocked me. I have no idea why, as I have not had any personal dispute with her. She was supportive of my human rights work so sadly I can only assume it is because of what I have said about Labour and antisemitism

Diane, blocking a human rights lawyer and activist is not a good look...

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