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Keep it short, sweet, & to the point.

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Can 10 degrees off nice try being just 5 degrees off nice, please?

Snorf. So you know you've got no reasonable response to me, so you accuse me of being a sock puppet. I think that's known as conceding the point.

Mine's a G&T with grapefruit.

Raab warns business not to blame Brexit for any woes, after John Lewis say lack of certainty (over brexit) has helped cause a collapse in profits....

Seems fair enough

@10degreestostarboard - you seem to swing from wild insults to occasional sober reasonableness accepting a difference of opinion. We all feel pretty angry one way or the other and, although it feels good to vent, there's only so far that will take you.

Hmmm, so for example BMW (mini) happily producing loads of cars is about to have the critical parts supply chain trashed and large tariffs imposed due to the Governmental insistence that the UK has to leave the CU and SM and it's not Brexit's fault??
Who ushered in the 'unprofitability elves' then?

Raab warns business not to blame Brexit for any woes

Begs the question 'or else what ?'

Perhaps Raab sees himself as some sort of enforcer type who is going to turn up at business premises around the country and menace them into submission with threats of ………….. fill in the blank as you see fit

He and others clearly want the media narrative to be "this is just part of the economic cycle and/or high street woes"

I listened to an arch brexiteir MP just now, he said there wouldn't be large scale job losses but when challenged refused to say how many woud be acceptable, just went on about "project fear"

Another millionaire MP who wont be affected :(

Yeah, they are desperate to make Brexit's economic impact into some sort of unforeseeable Act of God. Maybe that's the autocratic loyalty test they'll use to work out who to promote to power & influence in the future? The ability to pretend that the coming economic downturn is due to anything BUT Brexit?

on the same basis our movement from top to bottom of g7 growth tables was presumably nothing to do with the vote - just an economic cycle peculiar to the uk.

(the alternative would be government incompetence and thats never going to be admitted!)

The thing with the whole 'we can make our own laws' malarkey is that unless the person saying it is a member of parliament, WE can't, the millions of people who voted in the referendum have no way whatsoever of making any laws. They can hope that the political party in power represents their opinions on which laws should be introduced.

@SamCoatesTimes
Mark Carney told cabinet today that house prices would plunge 35% in 3 years in a "no deal" scenario, reveals @elliotttimes

Ouch !

Well I say ouch! but if you were in position to buy up lots of property at rock bottom prices, yay !

So that's a 87,500 drop on a 250,000 property, just saying and as a disclaimer I do not own my own home.

If you are not overstretched with your mortgage and don't need to move, I would say that house price falls, (in the south-east at least) are about the only bonus of Brexit. The only problem I envisage would be if these houses were then snapped up by buy to let landlords, so younger people will still struggle to get on the housing ladder.

Well as long as you continued to have a job and nothing else went up in price, then yes of course house price fall of 35% is a great thing for anyone struggling to get on the housing ladder, except if they are looking to inherit or benefit from their parents bunging them some money as a part of one of those equity release schemes. Then you have to consider how long that equity will last if paying for nursing home care, given local councils are literally on their knees providing social care. It all ends up a mess whichever way you look at it.

Another millionaire MP who wont be affected

Why do remainers always say things like this?
Brexit was voted for by the British people not MP’s. MP’s are merely carrying out the will of the people.

You would have just enough to pay for about 3 and half years care if you had funds of 167,500 and if care costs were £1,000 a week , then you get shipped to whichever care home takes the amount the council can afford to pay, unless your offspring in their new found glory as home owners can afford to pay the difference.

Surfer because those MP's who are millionaires will not be effected by the downgrade in the economy in the same way that millions of people who voted for them thinking those self same millionaires had those voters best interests at heart. Even I am not sure that makes sense , but hopefully you get the gist of it ? Bacardi anyone, clearing out the drinks cupboard (box) in preparation for Christmas

Is it too early for me to hit the Christmas youtube selection ……… ?

Hi Surfer
I think that expression come from conflating a couple of ideas. One that you will need to be a millionaire to weather this financial mess (suggesting that if you have significant savings you will put it 'offshore') and that the vast majority of the country will be stuffed to a fair degree for reasons that were not particularly well expressed just before the vote.
With great differences between North and and the South west versus the South east most wanted CHANGE to improve their lives. The problems were caused by the UK Government not necessarily immigrants or the EU. Both COULD have been managed over the years but it is much easier to write crap on a bus and blame someone else. In many ways remaining or leaving the EU is unimportant in that the differences in life experience between North and South need 'fixing'. As we are chucking the baby (EU) out with the bathwater the possibility of evening up the differences north to south is going to be much harder as the Gov have spent shitloads of money on attempting to exit and made trade (the money making bit of the UK) much harder as WTO rules will mean we are at a loss of maybe 10 percent. So buying in 'stuff' will cost 10 percent more, and when we sell things a 10 percent tariff gets put on them.

Yes.

Why do remainers always say things like this?
Brexit was voted for by the British people not MP’s. MP’s are merely carrying out the will of the people

'Cause its true! these people don't give a stuff about the likes of me or you, regardless of how we voted, we are just a means to an end, surprised you can't see that.

As for MPs carrying out the Will of the People, rubbish! we d be having a totally different Brexit if May hadn't called that stupid snap GE all because she couldn't accept the peoples verdict 2 years earlier.

Apparently one of the supermarkets has already got Christmas stuff on the shelves.

Sorry @surfer, I forgot which thread this was and it ended up as a long piece.