MNHQ here: results of our Brexit survey - 71% want another referendum

[RowanMumsnet]

Hello

We ran a survey on Mumsnet in August-September; more than 2000 of you took part. We were asking about your thoughts about Brexit and whether there should be a second referendum.

We're releasing the results today, and they show that 71% said they wanted another referendum (although 26% don't).

60% of survey respondents said they felt misled by claims made by campaigners in the 2016 referendum, including 41% who said they felt misled by claims made by the Leave campaign and 18% who said they felt misled by claims made by both Remain and Leave.

Summing up, one respondent said 'I envisaged jobs, travel and opportunity, not having a potato delivered by the army.'

You can read all about it here.

Thanks
MNHQ

Hazard swan

‘Detached from their humanity’???

I’m confused - are we leaving a multi national trading bloc or a Jesus cult?

Your strange utterances would suggest the latter...

And while we are on the subject - don’t forget those whom you condescend to ‘the most vulnerable Brits’ -the poorest?)) are among those who most want to leave.

Unless of course you, in your wisdom, are better placed than they to make an Important Decision....

Cardinal,

You come across as someone who would positively relish those things coming to pass! And especially if the blame can be accorded directly to Brexit...

Sadly (from your perspective) we don’t live in a third world country and the only link you can make is based on your own bias.

You lost the argument at the referendum - don’t compound that now through forced hysteria...

Why are we wrong to be happy that something we want is happening.
There is free choice in the UK and that is what is happening.

Relish? Really? Is that as low as the Quitlings have got now?

You really don't have a single argument in favour of leaving!

Nope, they've got nothing.

They never did.

Look at the claims made to what they are saying now.

They've been manipulated by the ultra neo liberals and they will pay the price.

17 million voted to leave.
WE WANTED TO LEAVE THE EU.
At what point will you realise how stupid you make yourself look to still be demanding answers to a new situation, I am excited for a future of a UK that is not hog tied to 27 other counties whose needs almost always seem to come before ours.

We are leaving a multi national trading block that currently obtains us good deals. Mr Mogg has predicted that all will be great but it might take 50 years. My money is already worth 3% less than 2 years ago (compared to Euro). The announcement in the papers yesterday was instructing Government departments to reduce spending (services to the public). Cost to traveling out of the UK, 7 Euros quoted for Visas, plus the Pound is very likely to be worth less than it is now.
As I said, read it in any newspaper, even the ones that are intent on leaving.

Leclerc - I will indulge you for a moment - even if your prophecies of financial doom are right (and they aren’t) - you are coming across as someone who only cares about money.... you may want to live in a gilded cage: I don’t.

Cardinal - take some deep breaths, think of your blood pressure...

The key fact is this: we had a vote and most of those who voted (on a high turnout) disagree with you.

Now - I will absolutely defend your right to challenge that result but instead of presenting arguments in your favour (and there are some) all any of you do is either play the ‘leavers are stupid card’ (the arrogance you display - that 17 million of us are ‘stupid’) or carry on manufacturing your hysteria.

Perhaps you would be better wondering why you lost the vote in the first place...

10 degrees

I am one of the poorest. You've really been sucked in havent you? Not all remainers are elite and not all leavers are poor, the fact you continue to chug that line out is a giveaway to how little you know. As LeClerc says read a newspaper.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/no-deal-brexit-meat-low-quality-poor-two-tier-food-system-british-chicken-a8525281.html heres the link to the article stating the poor will only have access to low quality food.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-cuts-operation-yellowhammer-eu-philip-hammond-latest-photo-chancellor-a8526046.html cuts, cuts and more cuts to fend off the risk of austerity.

I don't believe anyone who is proud to be British would vote for this shite.

Hazard

Let’s return to your bias - throwing links at me from the independent shows your limited world view and dependence upon a rag determined to derail brexit.

I was right the first time - the eu is your Jesus cult

I am as Remoaney as they come and think that Brexit was a terrible idea made even worse by the sheer incompetence of our leading political parties, but I haven't found any information on how a People's Vote would work?
Even if the Result went for Remain, which I hope it would, isn't it all too little, too late? Can we simply reverse A50? Is there a legal & political framework for just saying 'OK we've changed our mind, this was a bad idea, let's pretend it never happened' - there's only just over 200 days to go in which to organise a referendum campaign, hold the polling, count the votes, agree the outcome, put legal processes in place to reverse A50, negotiate with the EU on how we can just stop the process (we've got a great track record on rapid & effective negotiation haven't we) and then put it all down on paper.
I don't think a People's Vote can save us.

10 degrees

Cool story bro

Got any links that will debunk those articles?

You sound very trumpy.

"the eu is your Jesus cult"

The Independent was reporting on a seperate report made to ministers.

You've still made no arguments for leaving, or against the impacts of leaving. Just ad hominem attacks.

Scared?

Hazardswan

You want me to throw links at you? Is that the currency of ‘proof’ now?

I could throw lots of links from, say, the telegraph at you ‘bro’, but you would presumably tell me I’m as biased as I say you are.

Everyone has a ‘side’ here, which is where critical thinking comes in. Get your head out of the independent and think for yourself...

As I say, rather that working yourselves up into your bizarre hysteria, what you should be doing is wondering why you failed to convince at the referendum...

Topcat

I don’t need to make any arguments - my ‘side’ won the vote

It is you who needs to convince. Just what was this bright brave ‘locked-in’ future in the eu and why should I care?

Anyone that says the most disadvantaged want to leave the EU most needs to think again. The most disadvantaged want JOBS most badly. That horrible mutant heading our way aka the No Deal Brexit is not going to deliver that.
Remainers are in a cult?? Lol.
More like those who stick to vague promises while the clouds are gathering and no one has a clue how to weather the storm...

Operation Yellowhammer is looking ace!

10degress, you think you won the vote?

Your side cheated!

And what did you win exactly? No deal? Canada+ style deal? What? Please explain.

Cobblers - read the thread. The vote was to stay or go. Go means just that - a clean break. Gone. Why is that so difficult for you...

If you think the leave vote was generated by manipulated voters then it shows how out of touch you are - very few in the shires (except apparently on mumsnet) have any love for the eu...

The currency I exchanged a few weeks ago was worth rather less than last year, which is 'proof' enough for me.
As an example of 'critical thinking. Mr Mogg has said that it may take 50 years for the UK to reach it's potential of 'sunny uplands'. Why might he have said that?
If you want to try a bit harder, find out what 'trade deal' rates we get as part of the EU, then compare it to the basic rates we would get under WTO rules. Free trade does not mean that it is literally 'free', there are always strings attached. At a basic level other countries could 'give' goods to the UK for nothing. WTO rules mean that in return the UK would have to give anything they make away free as well.

you are coming across as someone who only cares about money

The sheer arrogance of that statement! Seriously, who can afford to disregard economic facts? Who can afford to look down on concerns about jobs and hard cash?? People like 10 degrees obviously who are so poor yet idealistic that they can live off air and dirty water whilst the utopia is being set up. Fuck that ! Yes we care about money because the less you have of it mate the more you need it and the more you tend to 'care' about it!!

Or another idea. You and 4 friends go for a parachute jump.
While you are up there you discover there are no parachutes so you have a vote whether to jump anyway. The vote goes 3:2 to jump. Would you all jump with no parachute, it was a democratic vote?

Quietrebel - as I say upthread you may be happy living in the gilded cage of the eu: I, and the majority of those who voted out in a referendum with a high turnout, disagree.

You need to present better arguments instead of hysterics and ‘what if’ statements of catastrophe

Leclerc - your analogy is poor: staying in the eu presented as many ‘where is the parachute’ dilemmas as leaving did.

Evidence? See Greece.

Greece, where the 'books' were shown to be cooked to allow them to join the EU and where a significant part of their major industry finds 'good' reasons to avoid paying tax.