I didn’t take part in the survey because I didn’t even see it.
I therefore demand a re-run.
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Why are so many leavers intent on advertising that they can't see what is as plain as the nose on their face?
And I'm sure you understand that this joke is not an accurate parody of remainers? No one is saying - 'we didn't know about the vote do it again'
we're saying:
- the leave campaign told outright lies
*it was illegally funded
- information on voters was illegally mined by Cambridge Analytica
- There was Russian involvement (links between the embassy and Aron Banks)
*since the vote, said Russians have attempted to murder a former spy on British soil - endangering the British local population as well as committing an outrageous act of encroaching on our borders (once upon a time - this would have meant war.) These Russians - they are not our friends.
- The vote was split amongst generational lines, with younger voters preferring to vote remain. These are the people who will have to live with the legacy and effects of brexit the longest - and they never wanted it.
- we were told (by Liam Fox) that negotiations would be the quickest and easiest in the history in the world - but two years down the line we have accomplished nothing.
- Due to no deal fears rising we now have i) the govt sending out technical notices to businesses telling them to stockpile food and meds. ii) businesses replying they don't have the warehousing space to stockpile - as in the single market we have used Just in time supply chains. iiI) Air companies telling us that (in event of no deal) we will fall out of the free skies agreement and that British pilots licenses will no longer be recognised and neither will our inspection methods of whether a plane is OK to fly. This means planes will be grounded. iv) in the light of this - holiday companies are putting in clauses in their small print that they are not liable if your holiday is cancelled as a result of brexit. v) trade agreements with America are going to involve us having to lower our food safety standards to match their own. Which means chlorinated chicken and hormone ridden beef. Vi) trade agreements with India and China are going to involve us having to agree to a lot more visas for their citizens - meaning higher immigration not lower. vii) meanwhile Japan has just signed a FTA with the EU - and will pull all their investment out of Britain if we don't stay in the single market. This means masses of job losses - and the knock on effect for the rest of the economy. viii) The NHS is on its knees due to a mass exodus of EU doctors and nurses. iX) Apparently vets will be in a similar position - as many of our vets are EU citizens. X) Businesses, banks, and EU institutions (the EMA for one) are all slowly trickling out of Britain. Taking jobs and money with them. XI) The fall in the pound has made living expenses even higher and things even more tight... this is on top of 8 years of austerity - and promise of worse to come as brexit hasn't even happened yet.
So in response to all that people are saying 'hmm maybe we should have a new referendum - where we get to choose between the terms of the deal and remaining. Where we get to decide if our lives will actually be better off in the EU or under the terms our Govt manages to secure. That sounds like democracy.'
Nobody is saying rerun the last one. We're asking for a different one - where the terms and conditions are known down to the last full stop.
I can see why that may be a terrifying prospect for the hardcore leavers and the terminally delusional. And why they would want to shut down even there merest suggestion of it. But that is not them being on the side of democracy.
2016: Do you want Britain to stay in the EU? Leave or Remain
Leave wins - 2 years of negotiotiating
2018: OK - here is what we will have when we leave. These are the terms. Are they acceptable? Do you believe your life will be better under these terms? Yes or No
Totally different questions - coming from a totally different place in time and events. Totally different referendum.
If we can't have this one, then we'll have to call the 2016 referendum null and void - because we voted on it back in the 1970s.
If you want to claim that things moved on and circumstances changed since the 1970s - so 2016 is legit - then the same is true for now (see my list).
There really isn't a democratic leg to stand on, denying the people a final say in the future of their country. But still we get this constant persistent belittling - which is always slightly inaccurate.
It really doesn't make the leavers saying it look very smart, I'm afraid.