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Westministenders: Back to School

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RedToothBrush · 30/08/2018 13:01

No, I'm not referring to the start of a new parliamentary season, I'm referring to the number of politicians who need to literally go back to school. Its embarassing, and worrying.

Anyway, here is a slightly lengthy, end summer news round up for you.

The Brexit Headlines
It seems to be Cabinet Office policy to push for the Chequers Deal or for No Deal Even though Macron has very firm, plainly and clearly said "non" in no uncertain terms. Its significant because its come from the official Brexit Department and not from a sweating Dominic Raab at Dexeu.

He has however delivered the first batch of the Brexit Untechnical Papers which are supposed to advise what to do in the event of No Deal. In reality this is a PR exercise, which makes the assumption that some sort of minimual deal will have been done, rather than no deal at all, combined with a very practical plan for 'a wing and a prayer'. Which is a bit of an issue if we decide that we really are going to stick to the line that its Chequers or no deal.

These untechnical papers are ludicarious shallow, which some having the audaciency to say "plan for the news rules, but we haven't actually decided what the news rules are and we'll get back to you as soon as we've made them up". The completely skirt the entire subject of NI, saying merely, more or less "oh that one will just work itself out". Despite the untechnical papers don't include the crucial aviation one, which apparently was held back because it was regarded as 'too shambolic' which is quite the statement, if you've read any of them. Nor do they include details of the contract for hundreds of portaloos to line our motorways so that lorry drivers can still take a pee whilst they are stuck in queues for days. They might starve and no one else will have any food because all the lorries are stuck, but hell they'll be no exposure on the M20 to offend you.

Its not quite as bleak as it sounds though. The Chequers Deal is a vision of our future relationship with the EU. Its not the Withdrawal Deal. And the Withdrawal Deal (and backstop) is the thing that needs to be done in Oct / Nov. Which then will lead on to talks about the Chequers Deal. You can't talk about Chequers without having ALREADY agreed the Withdrawal. Which is very important to keep in mind as its continuely being lost in the media coverage. Could it be that all the sudden noise from the Cabinet Office, is an attempt to distract in the short term to protect the Withdrawal phrase?

Also as an alternative to Chequers, Macron is reportedly expected to propose something akin to an 'associate member' style agreement for the UK with a vision for the EU and its allies to form a series of "concentric circles", with Britain closely tied to the 27 "core" EU member states. If this sounds familiar it is. Guy Verhofstadt has been banging on about this as an idea since before Brexit. Its also a plan which has long been muted by Barnier too. It will probably go down like a lead balloon here, but there is a political will in the EU for a deal. There just isn't in the UK.

More generally in UK politics
Jeremy Corbyn has had a nice relaxing summer but after the hard upcoming weeks ahead, I think he'll still be looking forward to his holiday plans for the Autumn Break, when he visits Israel to profess he's still definitely not an anti-semite, because look he's visiting the evil Zion and talking to Jews. He will spend the next few month telling us that No Deal is a Very Bad Idea, whilst also trying to get his MPs to vote in ways that are a Very Bad Idea. Meanwhile the rest of Labour will indulge in a very public slanging match which most normal people have long since stopped caring about in anyway because they are so bored and disappointed in how far heads have been inserted up backsides.

Theresa May, has been in Africa, where she is trying to get trade deals with lots of countries we already have trade deals with through the EU. She's also in the midst of a fight with Spreadsheet Phil who has been busy telling her to butt out of the budget and realising information to undermine the 'No Deal' narrative all week. Oh and trying to persuade beg Mark Carney to stay another year at the BoE cos no one wants his job. Rees-Smug has been up to his usual English Gentleman Act where he replicates the MPs of the Victorian Era who were into fucking those from the colonies whilst stripping them for asserts, with impecable manners. Boris Johnson is looking for his next photo op where he can look zany and drop a headline grabbing offensive comment. If it winds May up, so much the better. The Tory Creche outing to Birmingham looks like its going to be a scream.

I should say something about the LDs here, so here's a tumbleweed for you.

Back to Brexit
The fishing wars have started. Michael Gove has yet to be sighted in a souwester though (give it time). The Scallop Wars are an insight into why we need a relationship with the EU. It turns out that the French are pissed because we've been using these big fuck off ships which dredge the sea bed and are a ecological disaster and haven't observed a break for a 'breeding season' this year, whilst the French are forced to do so by law. We had been observing an informal agreement where we stick to the same rules, but for some reason this year, some bright spark though it was a bad idea for us to do so. So the French have got a bit shirty in response. Gove is spitting the dummy and saying we will do something. The reality? Well what exactly can we do apart from go to the EU and use the EU courts apart from patrolling the seas with a lot of customs boats and officials we don't have? Cod Wars III here we come!

We've also announced plans for brand new white whale money pit satellite to circle solely over the UK. We aren't in need of coverage for the rest of the world, so we aren't going to waste money on flying over anywhere else who isn't prepared to help contribute financially to its construction. It is going under the draft name of 'Heliocentre'

In other news
If none of this cheers your spirits, then great news; Good Old Nige is making a come back!!! He's dead excited because he's planning his first big Nazi Leave means Leave rally in Bolton where he act out his childhood Hitler fantasy. It'll a cost you a fiver to get in. He's also bored and worried about his income, as he's now considering getting pasted in the London Mayoral Election for the publicity. So soon his face will be back on your TV boxes for Questiontime. Are you all so happy.

I rather suspect the Greens won't be objecting and will be only too happy they aren't getting the publicity they deserve as the 4th biggest party at the moment...

So the Summer is over and normal service is resuming. I hope you have enjoyed the rest and this post brings you a little up to speed. We have Party Conferences to look forward to in the upcoming weeks. Won't that be a joy to behold? And the resumption of shooting ourselves in the face in EU talks.

Oh and don't forget that Trump fellow too. Its all starting to look a bit tasty over there ahead of the November elections. What happens there in the next couple of months might be very important to what happens over here.

Who is excited?!

I am just dancing to the sound of the South African Beats.

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1tisILeClerc · 03/09/2018 15:40

So how will prospective EU tourists in future know whether the hotels and guest houses are EU foreigner 'haters'?
Maybe change the AA star rating to 'hostility rating', with extreme places for masochists only.
The 'Sealed Knot' societies could invite the extreme right parties over for some real battles.

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2018 15:46

Kamal Ahmed @bbckamal
Breaking: Treasury opens talks with Carney to stay on as Governor via @BBCNews

George Osborne @George_Osborne
It’s not breaking news - it was in @EveningStandard a week ago ...

This kinda feels like every day watching the BBC if you read Westministenders. Its like living in a different timezone.

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RedToothBrush · 03/09/2018 15:47

OFOCNI @OFOCNI (20 hours ago)
Tomorrow morning we release an independent poll showing Brexit will lead to a 52% to 39% majority vote for a United Ireland. A hard border makes the majority even bigger. But no Brexit and the majority swings to maintaining the Union. Brexit threatens Unionism.

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DGRossetti · 03/09/2018 15:48

So how will prospective EU tourists in future know whether the hotels and guest houses are EU foreigner 'haters'?

I bet every guest house will be displaying the EU flag in a years time. Remember the English pride in pragmatism ? These are my principles. I have others if you like.. How else can we justify cosying up to really, really, really nasty regimes like Saudi Arabia, and fawning over Nelson Mandela in the same decade that saw him declared a "terrorist" ?

I can see the signs now in every Eu language.

Welcome to Cornwall
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL
WELCOME TO CORNWALL

SwedishEdith · 03/09/2018 15:51

We met Germans on holiday in northern France who were escaping the heat in Germany.

DGRossetti · 03/09/2018 16:10

We met Germans on holiday in northern France who were escaping the heat in Germany.

Isn't that a long time German pastime (sorry, couldn't resist it. I'm sure Henning Wehn would approve Grin)

DGRossetti · 03/09/2018 16:36

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BigChocFrenzy · 03/09/2018 16:40

DG AAARGH !
Where's the garlic !

BigChocFrenzy · 03/09/2018 16:42

Red OFOCONI are lagging behind:
The Irish Times already released thatv 52:39 poll on a United Ireland, see my post upthread.
It is in the Times or FT as well

Whatthefoxgoingon · 03/09/2018 16:50

DG we need some sort of trigger warning before you spring that on us Shock

bellinisurge · 03/09/2018 16:52

@DGRossetti that was just mean Grin

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1tisILeClerc · 03/09/2018 16:54

The local pub needed a new dartboard.

DGRossetti · 03/09/2018 16:59

(hangs head in shame)

sorry guys Sad

I guess, like the plague, some of us have a natural immunity ?

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bellinisurge · 03/09/2018 17:01

I so want to see that poster around here - 69% voted Leave. Dickheads.

Hazardswan · 03/09/2018 17:09

DG 😝

Anyone with an EU passport fancy marrying me? WinkGrin

bellinisurge · 03/09/2018 17:12

@Hazardswan - sorry but I'm already married. Both of us are blessed with an Irish born parent. Even more blessed than we knew.

Lovetosinglalala123 · 03/09/2018 17:20

Bellini After all the Irish jokes over the years, looks like the Irish are having the last laugh.

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bellinisurge · 03/09/2018 17:28

@Lovetosinglalala123 - it's a tricky one because the Irish economy may well take a hammering too. Just hope they get the back up they deserve from the EU. And then there's the border question which could go horribly badly.
But yes, a tiny and evil bit of me thinks this is payback for the "No Irish etc etc" signs, Mum endured when she came here in the 50s.

1tisILeClerc · 03/09/2018 17:28

@Loveto
With so many people claiming Irish passports it will be 'standing room only' before long.
@MrsR8, I thought you already had an 'escape route', you're not being greedy now are you?
I might have to dress up nice to see if I can catch the attention of the 'locals' and get adopted.

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BigChocFrenzy · 03/09/2018 17:53

An Irish passport lets you choose to live and work in any of the E27 or EFTA countries
So, 31 choices instead of just 1.

thecatfromjapan · 03/09/2018 18:08

All JC9 slate confirmed, I think.