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Westministenders: Back to School

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RedToothBrush · 30/08/2018 13:01

No, I'm not referring to the start of a new parliamentary season, I'm referring to the number of politicians who need to literally go back to school. Its embarassing, and worrying.

Anyway, here is a slightly lengthy, end summer news round up for you.

The Brexit Headlines
It seems to be Cabinet Office policy to push for the Chequers Deal or for No Deal Even though Macron has very firm, plainly and clearly said "non" in no uncertain terms. Its significant because its come from the official Brexit Department and not from a sweating Dominic Raab at Dexeu.

He has however delivered the first batch of the Brexit Untechnical Papers which are supposed to advise what to do in the event of No Deal. In reality this is a PR exercise, which makes the assumption that some sort of minimual deal will have been done, rather than no deal at all, combined with a very practical plan for 'a wing and a prayer'. Which is a bit of an issue if we decide that we really are going to stick to the line that its Chequers or no deal.

These untechnical papers are ludicarious shallow, which some having the audaciency to say "plan for the news rules, but we haven't actually decided what the news rules are and we'll get back to you as soon as we've made them up". The completely skirt the entire subject of NI, saying merely, more or less "oh that one will just work itself out". Despite the untechnical papers don't include the crucial aviation one, which apparently was held back because it was regarded as 'too shambolic' which is quite the statement, if you've read any of them. Nor do they include details of the contract for hundreds of portaloos to line our motorways so that lorry drivers can still take a pee whilst they are stuck in queues for days. They might starve and no one else will have any food because all the lorries are stuck, but hell they'll be no exposure on the M20 to offend you.

Its not quite as bleak as it sounds though. The Chequers Deal is a vision of our future relationship with the EU. Its not the Withdrawal Deal. And the Withdrawal Deal (and backstop) is the thing that needs to be done in Oct / Nov. Which then will lead on to talks about the Chequers Deal. You can't talk about Chequers without having ALREADY agreed the Withdrawal. Which is very important to keep in mind as its continuely being lost in the media coverage. Could it be that all the sudden noise from the Cabinet Office, is an attempt to distract in the short term to protect the Withdrawal phrase?

Also as an alternative to Chequers, Macron is reportedly expected to propose something akin to an 'associate member' style agreement for the UK with a vision for the EU and its allies to form a series of "concentric circles", with Britain closely tied to the 27 "core" EU member states. If this sounds familiar it is. Guy Verhofstadt has been banging on about this as an idea since before Brexit. Its also a plan which has long been muted by Barnier too. It will probably go down like a lead balloon here, but there is a political will in the EU for a deal. There just isn't in the UK.

More generally in UK politics
Jeremy Corbyn has had a nice relaxing summer but after the hard upcoming weeks ahead, I think he'll still be looking forward to his holiday plans for the Autumn Break, when he visits Israel to profess he's still definitely not an anti-semite, because look he's visiting the evil Zion and talking to Jews. He will spend the next few month telling us that No Deal is a Very Bad Idea, whilst also trying to get his MPs to vote in ways that are a Very Bad Idea. Meanwhile the rest of Labour will indulge in a very public slanging match which most normal people have long since stopped caring about in anyway because they are so bored and disappointed in how far heads have been inserted up backsides.

Theresa May, has been in Africa, where she is trying to get trade deals with lots of countries we already have trade deals with through the EU. She's also in the midst of a fight with Spreadsheet Phil who has been busy telling her to butt out of the budget and realising information to undermine the 'No Deal' narrative all week. Oh and trying to persuade beg Mark Carney to stay another year at the BoE cos no one wants his job. Rees-Smug has been up to his usual English Gentleman Act where he replicates the MPs of the Victorian Era who were into fucking those from the colonies whilst stripping them for asserts, with impecable manners. Boris Johnson is looking for his next photo op where he can look zany and drop a headline grabbing offensive comment. If it winds May up, so much the better. The Tory Creche outing to Birmingham looks like its going to be a scream.

I should say something about the LDs here, so here's a tumbleweed for you.

Back to Brexit
The fishing wars have started. Michael Gove has yet to be sighted in a souwester though (give it time). The Scallop Wars are an insight into why we need a relationship with the EU. It turns out that the French are pissed because we've been using these big fuck off ships which dredge the sea bed and are a ecological disaster and haven't observed a break for a 'breeding season' this year, whilst the French are forced to do so by law. We had been observing an informal agreement where we stick to the same rules, but for some reason this year, some bright spark though it was a bad idea for us to do so. So the French have got a bit shirty in response. Gove is spitting the dummy and saying we will do something. The reality? Well what exactly can we do apart from go to the EU and use the EU courts apart from patrolling the seas with a lot of customs boats and officials we don't have? Cod Wars III here we come!

We've also announced plans for brand new white whale money pit satellite to circle solely over the UK. We aren't in need of coverage for the rest of the world, so we aren't going to waste money on flying over anywhere else who isn't prepared to help contribute financially to its construction. It is going under the draft name of 'Heliocentre'

In other news
If none of this cheers your spirits, then great news; Good Old Nige is making a come back!!! He's dead excited because he's planning his first big Nazi Leave means Leave rally in Bolton where he act out his childhood Hitler fantasy. It'll a cost you a fiver to get in. He's also bored and worried about his income, as he's now considering getting pasted in the London Mayoral Election for the publicity. So soon his face will be back on your TV boxes for Questiontime. Are you all so happy.

I rather suspect the Greens won't be objecting and will be only too happy they aren't getting the publicity they deserve as the 4th biggest party at the moment...

So the Summer is over and normal service is resuming. I hope you have enjoyed the rest and this post brings you a little up to speed. We have Party Conferences to look forward to in the upcoming weeks. Won't that be a joy to behold? And the resumption of shooting ourselves in the face in EU talks.

Oh and don't forget that Trump fellow too. Its all starting to look a bit tasty over there ahead of the November elections. What happens there in the next couple of months might be very important to what happens over here.

Who is excited?!

I am just dancing to the sound of the South African Beats.

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Mrsr8 · 30/08/2018 13:02

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1tisILeClerc · 30/08/2018 13:15

Thank you, a brilliant summary RTB.
For a while I thought it was a plot line for a satirical comedy programme.
I have a minor quibble though, your post, which appears as the header for the thread takes up so much screen space so wimps like me have to scroll down so far.

Peregrina · 30/08/2018 13:19

Placemarking as usual. I wonder what will happen during the Conference season?

Hazardswan · 30/08/2018 13:21

Star 👏 excellent round up!

Also isn't Nigel Farage now German literal Nazi ? A German is going to travel round Britain with a battle bus to tell us what to do LOL

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DGRossetti · 30/08/2018 13:38

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PineappleSunrise · 30/08/2018 13:46

That summary is worth a small standing ovation, Red. (I'm so glad something good keeps coming out of all this.)

Yes to all your observations on the parties. Especially the Greens.

frumpety · 30/08/2018 14:10

Place marking , not really around but keep getting the odd moment to post and lurk < more round than around due to too much holiday fare > Grin

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Whatthefoxgoingon · 30/08/2018 14:18

Super summery summary RTB.

I’m feel perpetually braced for chaos.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 30/08/2018 14:19

I feel. Stupid autocorrect!

GoneWishing · 30/08/2018 14:21

That's a decent summary. Grin I don't really have much to contribute to these threads, but enjoy reading them, so thanks folks!

I did find an explanation for why so many seem to think it'll all be just fine, though...

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lonelyplanetmum · 30/08/2018 14:24

Red respect, and thanks 💐

DGRossetti · 30/08/2018 14:31

Much as I would love the GOP and trump to get a hammering in the midterms...I'm really not sure they will

Well bear in mind Trump has threatened violence if they do.

HesterThrale · 30/08/2018 14:31

Thanks Red. Place mat king.

So Vince may or may not be resigning the leadership soon, and may or may not be instituting a change to allow non-MPs to be leader, and Gina Miller may or may not be considering the LD leader role...
All I know is the LDs seem like a reasonably functioning party right now, but that's because Tories and Labour are setting the bar so incredibly LOW.

woman11017 · 30/08/2018 14:46

Thank you red brilliant summary. If any one's wondering where the Russian bots are, they seem busy in Sweden electionSad

DGRossetti · 30/08/2018 14:47

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DGRossetti · 30/08/2018 15:01

Seems May just cannot please everyone ...

(I liked the comment that was posted with this: I knew this would create a paradox for the I'm-not-racist-but Gammons )

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DarlingNikita · 30/08/2018 15:04

Excellent work, Red.

Can't go as badly for TM as last year, surely??
I think it might go worse. She might have to come back from the conference in an Uber, having been dethroned and denied a place on the Tory fun bus.

Peregrina · 30/08/2018 15:15

My guess is that Theresa May, assuming she survives the Conference, will call an election for the end of March, with the hope that the Tories will lose, but that Labour will have no choice but to carry on with her Brexit plan. Then they can collect the blame when Brexit goes tits up.

The only fly in the ointment is likely to be the British public, who don't always behave as they ought to. 2015 election - they (we) were supposed to vote in sufficient LibDems to force another coalition and allow Cameron to blame the LibDems for preventing his Referendum. 2016 - Cameron hoped Remain would win, (although it wouldn't have shut up his right wing.)
2017 - Labour was supposed to be slaughtered and ought to have been if the downright hostility of the Media was a clue, but No, the public again decided otherwise.

DGRossetti · 30/08/2018 15:25

The problem the tories had with the last GE, was to assume that the racist pigshit Brexit UKIPpers were all fellow Tories (which is admittedly a fair assessment, superficially).

What did for them, was a failure to realise that being racist, thick, and ill educated is an equal opportunity vocation, and quite a few Labour supporters fitted the shoe - and voted Labour.

Moving forwards, there's every chance that the Labour-Brexiteers will vote Labour to get Labours take on Brexit, with the impeccable logic that it can't be worse than Tory Brexit.

(The extreme cynic in me suggests this might be why Labour appears to be happy to drag out the anti-semitism headlines. Anti-semitism might appall the Islington lefty set ... however it could appeal to a more base view around the country. Or, to put it another way, if the Tories were to be accused of anti-semitism, it would increase their vote a bit. In fact the only reason no one is accusing the Tories of anti-semitism is that it's pretty much taken as read.)

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PineappleSunrise · 30/08/2018 15:48

Did David Cameron expect Remain to win? As time goes on, I am less and less convinced of that. He didn't really do much to make it happen, did he?