Have your frienships and family relationships suffered as a result of Brexit?

[Wormzy]

Just that, really. If friends and/ or family members have clearly voted differently to you, has it changed the way you see them or interact with them? Have friendships broken down?

I haven't been able to vote, but the outcome of the vote affects me disproportionately. Family members have voted Leave. There have been arguments, also between friends, some ended in loss of contact.

I wonder how the Brexit vote has affected others on here?

@woman11017

Re your question on the other thread.
She said the phrase twice, so it wasn’t a slip . Seemed to be in relation to Brexiteers getting angry including her if there was another referendum and previous one was overturned by a new vote.

She also remembers life before the EU and prefers it apparently.

2bees you could go down the grown up route and explain to her that everyone else voted remain and are mightily pissed off with the way things are going and does she really want to spend quality time with a bunch of 'remoaners' ?

Or you could all stoop to levels of childishness not normally seen in polite company.

I would probably do the second option, but I get a bit giddy if let out on my own

She also remembers life before the EU and prefers it apparently.

My favourite response to Leavers who preferred life before is to invite them to look at Nick Hedges photos from the 60's and 70's..

www.nickhedgesphotography.co.uk

I was born in the 60s. The 70s were shit. Beige nylon, poverty, wwII bomb sites not yet redeveloped, racism. Unhappy days.

Strikes. Three day week. Bread shortages. Power cuts .....

Character building stuff, something for our children and grandchildren to aspire to ?

I like your grown up idea frumpety Thanks!

We could go back to pounds shillings and pence galleons sickles and knuts for the Potter fans. Decimalisation happened just as was getting old enough to learn about money - I might still have a jar or threepenny bits that I saved because they looked ace. We were also taught imperial and metric measures at school. Sanitary belts rather than stick on sanitary pads.
Misogyny- which my lovely old dad ignored and urged me to do STEM.

Fear of nuclear annihilation. Or, for "light" relief, depressing daily news about murders and bombs in N Ireland with the occasional devastating IRA terrorist attack in England.
Hope you have plenty of ammunition for your pal who thought the 60s and 70s were glory days. I definitely don't want to go through them second time around.
As for WWII - my parents told me plenty about how fucking shit that was.
Worth aspiring to.

Plastic toys in cereal. They were cool. I got a Lady and The Tramp one. We could have those.

Awful argument on FB with my brother last night . Usually ignore his posts for the sake of family relations and my MH .
My parents are Irish : 2 countries , 2 religions. As a result visiting relatives in the north growing up in the 70s and 80s was impossible .
So my stupid brother posts following a report by the Independent regarding Gibraltar , basically saying if they can sort that why can’t they sort The Irish border.
Apparently he’s heard that the technology is possible instead and can’t see what’s wrong with having all the benefits we have of RU now plus being able to do trade deals around the world. It’s a reasonable request apparently. This coming from someone in the legal profession who studied EU law admittedly years ago.
He got very annoyed when I told him he was living in unicorn land .
Expecting a phone call at some point from my DF later but this time I am not backing down . His idiotic remarks about ireland given our heritage was the last straw .

I shall post a picture of myself later on the march on FB . Hopefully he will see it and it will annoy him.

I am supposed to be going away for a w/e with 2 work colleagues, who I have been friends with for ages.

To my amazement, both Brexited; in our HCP job, the vast majority of us, including all the doctors, voted Remain. I think both feel rather defensive as most colleagues speak of incomprehension that anyone in health care thinks Brexiting is a good idea....

Anyway, my DH may well lose his job over this (EU company).

We don't discuss it, except once a year ago when both stated Brexit would create jobs for our kids.... and yay! Bring it on, etc.

I admit I can be a bit disingenuous when I earnestly enquire of one who's DS (another Leaver) became unemployed once his apprenticeship finished and the company (who import from the EU) were going under, how the job search was going? Seeing as our economy is apparently booming and youth unemployment is at an all time low, early Brexit victories etc (as kids are now in minimum wage, zero hours gig- economy jobs)... I would like to say I feel sorry for any kid despairing of getting a job, but a) he helped bring this on himself, and b) he, and his mother apparently have no problem with my DH losing his job. Tho, to be fair, my colleagues never considered such issues on Referendum day.

But, I admit that I might lose my shit if they're all 'Yay! Bring it on!' - this w/e as we are so much closer to crashing out since we last spoke about it. That level of cognitive dissonance in degree educated people worries me.

The referendum has convinced me that most people are thick tbh.

@malificent7 - we're apparently not allowed to call Leave voters thick. It's offensive to their people or some shit like that.

we're apparently not allowed to call Leave voters thick. It's offensive to their people or some shit like that.

I find calling the morons "Brexiteers" helps to distinguish them from Leavers who had very good and researched reasons for choosing to vote Leave. It helps direct the opprobrium fairly.

Yes my family has been massively affected. Parents are daily fail devotees who only care about really important things like the EU won't let us have bigger vacuum cleaners and don't care about the little things like our jobs and their grandchildren's futures .
I can't stand it. It's the elephant in the room most of the time. Except last week when DF decided to rant on FB. Was v embarrassing. Decided it was best to unfollow.

I'm lucky that the only people in my family affected by Brexit are my niece and nephew and they have EU passports. We are Spaniards.

My nephew has a Spanish passport and the kids are in it. His lovely Cornish wife only has to live in Spain a couple of years to claim Spanish citizenship if she wants to.

None of us can believe the idiocy of Brexit, it's just mind boggling. Factually the UK is an island off the European coast punching above its weight financially and politically since the end of the British Empire. Much of that “weight" comes from being TOP power together with Germany in the EU, probably the best world trading in the world. As top power in EU, the UK negotiated to say NO to Schengen, the Euro and were determinant for conservative Eastern European countries to join the EU. The UK has also always opposed developing closer EU ties in finance, banking and an European defence force. Frankly many people in Europe think is better long term that the UK leaves Europe - we feel Europeans, you feel British.

Hopefully the UK government and Parliament will agree/approve to a deal with a transitional period instead of the awful possibility of a no deal with the damage that it will cause to the most vulnerable.

One thing is 100% certain - the UK will never again influence EU decision making again after 30 March 2019.

Apologies, after 29 March, effective 30th.

I havent fallen out with anyone though there are a few people whose opinion of which has been coloured. Ironically not about whether they voted leave or remain, but that the support boris johnson and what hes doing. These are people I've known for over 20 years and thought I knew very well. I wouldn't say its damaged my relationship with them per say, but it's made me lose respect and put some mental distance between us. I guess the results on the 12th dec will bring out a lot of peoples true colours. I am preparing myself for it