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Have your frienships and family relationships suffered as a result of Brexit?

721 replies

Wormzy · 26/08/2018 10:03

Just that, really. If friends and/ or family members have clearly voted differently to you, has it changed the way you see them or interact with them? Have friendships broken down?

I haven't been able to vote, but the outcome of the vote affects me disproportionately. Family members have voted Leave. There have been arguments, also between friends, some ended in loss of contact.

I wonder how the Brexit vote has affected others on here?

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Kewqueue · 26/08/2018 19:09

My parents voted leave because fishermen were being forced to change their packaging.

Ha! I know someone whose friend's brother had to put a translation on his packaging and he thought this was an outrage! Totally worth ruining the economy for. I also know someone who voted Leave and who has now left the UK because her husband (who is an EU national) felt he was no longer welcome. Why would you do that?

BlingLoving · 26/08/2018 19:20

My relationship with one of my closest friends has become slightly strained and for a few months, was very very difficult.

I think the problem is that whether they want to admit it or not, the vast bulk of leavers voted with very little real knowledge and a worrying propensity yo believe the outright lies being told by leave politicians and were easily impactes by the social media manipulation being enacted by Cambridge analytica.

As a result, the average remained feels angry and disappointed in the sheer stupidity of friends, family and colleagues who voted leave.

And this is why it's different to any other election. I have plenty of friends and family who vote differently to me and who have different views on foreign policy, bus, benefits ext. But in each case those opinions are based on a set of facts and moral viewpoints that I accept, even if I don't agree.

MamaHechtick · 26/08/2018 19:21

I voted remain, my father voted leave, we sometimes discuss it but it never gets heated, we just understand that we have different views on it.

prunemerealgood · 26/08/2018 19:25

Blingloving that’s it, isn’t it? And then you start wondering why they chose the path of wishful thinking at all - I can’t get my head around the sheer amount of hatred for other humans Confused

Spudlet · 26/08/2018 19:34

There are a few members of my family that I think a lot less of, I must say. I haven't discussed it with them and I don't plan to, but I know, and I do not admire them for it.

It's been an eye-opener about a couple of them, I must say. One in particular was quite open about voting Leave because of 'all the immigrants' - I was genuinely shocked to hear that coming from that particular person. I really, really think an awful lot less of them for it - I don't think I'll ever feel as close to them again.

HollowTalk · 26/08/2018 19:40

I've been really lucky - as far as I know, nobody I know voted Leave. I would've found it really difficult to discuss politics with them if they had.

TheMonkeyMummy · 26/08/2018 19:44

Yup. My parents were visiting when the results were announced and DH had to get in between me and my dad.

All of our family (both sides) except Bil voted leave, and it will directly affect us.

Mum still reads Daily Fail religiously and is spouting about Project Fear and how badly treated Theresa May is by the other EU leaders, a lot. Dad, I suspect, regrets his vote now but won't openly admit it. On our recent visit, he told me never to come back, the country is totally f**ked and if he was a young man today he would be looking to emigrate.

I make a concerted effort to not talk about it with them because I love them but am so angry.

AnnieHawk · 26/08/2018 19:51

Husband's ex-business partner and his now wife (then girlfriend) voted Leave without any logical reason that they were able to articulate. I suspect it had a lot to do with his long-term addiction to the Daily Express and its torrent of --lies Euromyths.
Unfortunately, our business is intimately tied up with Europe. He's now gone over the side, my husband and I are picking up the pieces - along with very stressful personal issues - and I don't think I'll ever forgive him.

bellinisurge · 26/08/2018 20:07

We wait until dd has gone to bed before we ever slag off adults we know that voted leave - parents of her friends ; couple of my relatives. To be honest, our Brexit conversations tend to be telling jokes and making light of our emergency stash of food. With the occasional update in our respective Irish passport situation- both have one Irish born parent. And DD's application to become an Irish citizen. My dh gets stressed out if we talk to seriously about it too much. He's really worried. Also worried but I'm a prepper and already have my head around the possibility that things get really bad.
We briefly discussed whether we think our nice neighbours voted Brexit. Dh said " fuck 'em if they did ". I said we might need them in a tricky situation so we shouldn't burn our bridges with them.
What a mess.

Chocolala · 26/08/2018 20:35

I do t bother with most of my extended family now. It was when one told me that she voted Brexit because “I thought I would be nice for that money to go to the NHS” that finally did it for me.

honeysucklejasmine · 26/08/2018 20:37

I agree with Bling's sentiment. I can forgive people for voting for different political parties than me. They are equally valid choices and depend on your priorities and world view. But I just can't comprehend voting leave. And yes, I've lost a few friends over it.

Mrskeats · 26/08/2018 20:39

No because all my friends and family are thinking, intelligent people who voted remain.
It’s not about agreeing or not; it’s about being naive or just racist so I would not want to hang about wth people like that.
I have friends from the EU and have seen the awful effects on them too.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 26/08/2018 20:45

Not really. I voted Leave.

Lots of people have messaged me saying they also did but couldn’t tell family and friends which is really sad. So all you smug folk saying you don’t know anyone stupid enough to vote Leave should think again!!

And no, I would never fall out with a friend over politics and I live in Scotland!! Anyone who judges people on this stuff is probably the same person that still doesn’t understand why the Leave vote prevailed

Mrskeats · 26/08/2018 20:49

It’s not a question of judging. It’s a question of having differences that can’t be spanned.
I love the smug comment too. The leave vote can be smug as it ‘won’ and will now preside over this disaster.
We know why leave ‘won’. Stupidity and gullibility.

frumpety · 26/08/2018 21:04

I don't hate anyone, it requires far more effort than I am willing to expend, but I have this overwhelming sense of disappointment in my parents choice of vote. They were fortunate enough to be able to take their final salary public sector pensions early and struggle to understand that the same pensions are not available to their offspring, they get quite uppity when you try to explain that things have changed.

courderoy · 26/08/2018 21:04

So everyone has a right to their opinion and I recognise that other people might think differently to me. What I couldn’t understand is how my MIL and FIL voted on such a key issue without doing any research or real thinking about it.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 26/08/2018 21:06

I know who to talk politics with and who not to engage with about it.
I privately judge them. With my judgey pants.

This.

I talk openly about it at work, with my mum, and with my DH and kids. I'm a prepper at heart anyway, so we (me, DH, and kids) chat about stockpiling food and other preparations we are making. We keep it pretty light-hearted but we're getting all our ducks in a row*

*we don't actually have any ducks although they would be good for eggs and eating.

Ragwort · 26/08/2018 21:26

No, I voted remain, as did my mother but my DH & father voted leave as did my siblings; I genuinely don't know what many of my friends voted, I assume many voted leave, for some reason I seem to be surrounded by leavers and people with more right wing views. Confused.

Parker231 · 26/08/2018 21:47

I’m not entitled to vote in the uk but could be massively affected by the Brexit outcome. We have had many discussions with friends who are leavers and remainers; agree with some of their comments and disagree with others. Would never let it impact onto our friendship - I respect they have their own views even if I don’t understand or agree with them.

NormHonal · 26/08/2018 22:04

I count myself fortunate that my parents votes Remain, as i do have a fair few friends whose parents voted Leave in spite of direct impact on their DCs/GCs (for example, son-in-law from EU, GCs job likely to be axed) and know people who either don’t speak to parents or were furious with them as a result. I still see digs and spats on social media between my uncle and cousin about this, and have heard digs at family gatherings.

One friend admitted to voting leave and I distanced myself immediately. I could not believe my ears at the time and I haven’t been able to forgive and forget.

For some reason this did feel very personal. Although my own immediate family is likely to be fairly well protected from the impact, so many friends and extended family would be impacted negatively if this goes ahead. It’s struck at the heart of what I believe in and how I live my life.

AlexaShutUp · 26/08/2018 22:06

Thankfully, none of my family voted leave. We all agree that Brexit is going to be disastrous. We might have minor disagreements about what should happen next, but generally, we agree.

Most of my friends voted remain too, but two voted leave. I haven't stopped seeing them and we just don't talk about it, but if I'm really honest, I have lost a bit of respect for both of them. Not because they voted differently from me, but more because they didn't really think about what they were doing. Neither are very politically aware, and both voted leave because they were pissed off with Cameron and didn't want to do what he was telling them to do. They have said themselves that they didn't actually care about the EU and I know that at least one of them really regrets her vote now.

FrangipaniBlue · 26/08/2018 22:34

Nope.

My best friend and I voted differently and have since had very rational and reasoned discussions about it, from our reasons why we each voted the way we did to the current state of affairs and whether we'd vote differently or the same if we had another vote.

No heated words were exchanged, no animosity and no ill feeling.

We respect each other's right to an opinion and a vote.

twofingerstoEverything · 27/08/2018 07:09

For some reason this did feel very personal.

That's because it is personal. In a general election, the outcome doesn't usually result in citizens losing any rights. Brexit removes all kinds of rights from ordinary individuals.

So, yes. I do find it difficult to engage with people who voted to strip me of my rights.

Gaspodethetalkingdog · 27/08/2018 07:14

Wow, I couldn’t vote - I have never asked anyone how they voted and it is never discussed. I can’t imagine falling out about it.

My brother and his partner voted leave, that’s their choice - brother is not a working class idiot he has a science degree, he has seen the malign effects of immigration first hand.

Peregrina · 27/08/2018 07:34

The relationship with one friend has become a bit strained. One who thought 'we were alright before' but I know will be the first to complain if her supply of regular medications become difficult to obtain. She won't see the connection either.