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Brexit

Is a No Deal exit really a possibility?

195 replies

StorminaBcup · 23/08/2018 17:46

Is there really a risk of a No Deal for Britain leaving Europe or are they making it sound even more of an utter shambles (if that's possible), so that whatever deal we leave with won't be quite so bad in comparison?

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StorminaBcup · 23/08/2018 21:26

Lottapianos - I think it's highly likely after Boris and burka comments. There was an editorial in spectator that was interesting

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Ta1kinpeace · 23/08/2018 21:26

Viva
So you want to be accountable to the WTO instead ?

StorminaBcup · 23/08/2018 21:28

Vivalarevolution that makes no sense. As a brexiter surely you would want it to be a success so you could prove you were right? Why focus on the dissatisfaction of the 'remoaners'?

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Jason118 · 23/08/2018 21:29

Europe wants what's best for Europe, why would it ever be different? Muppet.

Vivalarevolution · 23/08/2018 21:36

Yes I would dearly love Brexit to be a success but I can't see that happening with Brussels treating us with such utter contempt.
Why can't the U.K. have an independent voice at the WTO?

Ta1kinpeace · 23/08/2018 21:38

Viva
Have you read up about how the WTO works ?

and thus understand why NO OTHER COUNTRY trades on WTO terms alone

JWIM · 23/08/2018 21:40

Viva think you misunderstand how the WTO works and clearly misunderstand sovereignty of member states in the EU.

Jason118 · 23/08/2018 21:40

How are they treating us with contempt? I don't recognise this behaviour from them. I look forward to enlightenmentSmile

Frequency · 23/08/2018 21:40

Yes I would dearly love Brexit to be a success but I can't see that happening with Brussels treating us with such utter contempt

It's not contempt, it is looking after their own needs and their member states. Why did you expect them to do otherwise?

1tisILeClerc · 23/08/2018 21:44

Viva
There are many in the EU who do not want the UK to leave as we are regarded as friends. Our economy and life expectations are similar to most of the rest of Europe.
We had representatives to look after UK interests at the EU. A certain Mr Farage was in charge of looking after fisheries, but he only turned up to one or two out of 42 EU parliament meetings and 'lost' the fishing rights to European fishermen who bothered to turn up and understand what was going on.
The 'cost' of being an EU member is roughly £200 a year per person I believe which as 'membership' to a club is very good value. Even the simplest of things like the abolition of mobile roaming charges 'saves' that sort of money for those who travel to a EU country. The standards and safety rules that make the food and toys etc safe for all. Being a member of the EU 'forced' distribution of government funds to deprived areas of the UK, Devon, Wales etc, which Westminster failed to do. With the fall in value of the pound the chances of Westminster replacing the EU redistribution are slim as they want their 'pet projects' like the HS2 to nowhere and Heathrow expansion.

Vivalarevolution · 23/08/2018 21:44

Yes and the U.K. should be looking after there own too. Why are you all wailing when the government try to do this.

Ta1kinpeace · 23/08/2018 21:46

U.K. should be looking after there own too. Why are you all wailing when the government try to do this.
What exactly are the UK government trying to do ?
What is their aim?
What do you want from Brexit - on a day to day basis ?

Frequency · 23/08/2018 21:47

Yes and the U.K. should be looking after there own too

But Brexit is the opposite of looking after the UK. It's closer to bundling the UK up in a tatty blanket and throwing it off a cliff.

We are literally, deliberately tanking the economy.

TokyoSushi · 23/08/2018 21:48

Absolutely and utterly dim question but please explain to me like the idiot I am.. **Disclaimer, I'm not for Brexit at all but trying to make the best of a shit situation, here goes:

Norway & Switzerland aren't in the EU, but they appear, at least to me to be perfectly fine and well functioning countries, why can't we be like them?

Please educate meBlush

Rosstac · 23/08/2018 21:49

Who do you believe ? How can their be such polar opinions on the same out come

Is a No Deal exit really a possibility?
Is a No Deal exit really a possibility?
Vivalarevolution · 23/08/2018 21:49

Leclerc good point about losing the U.K. fishing grounds to EU fisheries. If we weren't part of this membership we wouldn't have had to worry about loosing them in the first place.
Also I do not see very many positives about our"membership". We get told to implement laws we do not agree with - giving votes to those incarcerated, and don't get me started on bendy bananas!

Ta1kinpeace · 23/08/2018 21:50

Tokyosushi
Years and years and years of hard work and compromise
and agreeing to be in the customs union and parts of the single market and free movement of people

the UK could have what they have
(abiding by rules over which they have no say)
but it would cross all of Theresa May's "red lines"

Rosstac · 23/08/2018 21:51

The German car manufacturers aren’t going to be very happy with AM when they can’t sell their cars in the UK

Ta1kinpeace · 23/08/2018 21:51

don't get me started on bendy bananas!
Brexit bingo HOUSE

Jason118 · 23/08/2018 21:52

Viva, are you eight years old?

Vivalarevolution · 23/08/2018 21:53

It's all going to hell in a hand cart as remoaners are constantly trying to change a democratic vote. We all need to get behind a common cause and stop all this in fighting and sniping. If the U.K. stands united and firm we might actual get a deal but unfortunately that looks like an impossiblity now. Confused

Jason118 · 23/08/2018 21:54

Rosstac, we won't be able to afford them anyway.

Vivalarevolution · 23/08/2018 21:54

Thank you Jason118 you are the first remoaner to bring out the playground insult. Give yourself a pat on the back.

Frequency · 23/08/2018 21:55

Leclerc good point about losing the U.K. fishing grounds to EU fisheries

I might be wrong but aren't EU rules around fishing to do with those pesky things called environment and sustainability? I mean, I guess they're not that important.

That could be a positive of leaving the EU, we get to fish the ocean dry and cause untold devastation to the wider environment in the process and while we're doing it we can eat bendy bananas except we can't because bananas are imported

Yay for leaving the EU!

Jason118 · 23/08/2018 21:55

Thank youSmile

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