Remainders always start anti Brexit threads.

[Ihatemycar]

I've been reading Brexit threads and it's always the same people talking about how unhappy they are about Brexit.
I guess Brexit leave voters have no time to waste on forums.

TBF, Bertrand I would be happy to see the banning of live animal exports for slaughter, which the UK can’t currently do.

But that’s the only thing so can think of.

“Countries outside the EU also have separate reciprocal agreements with the UK in regards to health care”

I know. We’ll now have to negotiate such agreements with European countries too. That’ll be fun, won’t it?

Crabby is obviously being a bit 'goady'. The UK can pass whatever laws it likes but if they are anything to do with another country the laws have to be ratified and upheld. You could pass a law that all apples from the EU must be blue. Obviously a ridiculous idea but the point is that having a law must be 'agreed' with other countries.
Of course the UK could declare itself to be a totalitarian state and not interact in any way with any other country by passing so many unachievable laws (think an extreme version of N Korea). JRM and some of his mates would love this idea by the way, especially as they want to be in control and are happily putting their money OUT of the UK to avoid the losses.

Just caught up with @Ihatemycar charming suggestion that I go to Ireland. People used to say nasty shit like that to my Mum. Usually when she was wiping their arse in a London hospital where she was an invited worker in the 50s.
I have no intention of going to Ireland but I want to retain my EU rights that Leavers are taking off me. And my dd.

Thecrabbypatty
EU laws that have benefitted the UK

• Clean Air
• Clean Beaches
• Clean drinking water
• Maternity rights
• Paternity rights
• 48 hour working week limits
• wildlife protection farming payments
• equal pay rights for women and the young and the old and gays
• vehicle emission standards
• renewable energy standards

all the "red tape" stuff that Rees Mogg cannot wait to get rid of

I have asked lots of people for examples of "EU" laws they doNmt like. They've never been able to tell me any.

Ihatemycar Tue 21-Aug-18 22:13:28

I have time as I have 6 weeks off.

Ihatemycar Wed 22-Aug-18 10:42:52

I'll get back to my holidays I still have 3 more weeks off.

And I thought my holidays flew by.

I don't disagree, there have been some great ideas come up with. And other parts of the world outside the EU have come up with more still. And I agree the good ones should be kept. Whats going to stop us keeping them when we leave?

thecrabbypatty
Whats going to stop us keeping them when we leave?
Because the arch Brexiteers like Rees Mogg WANT them gone
watch this
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-safety-standards-workers-rights-jacob-rees-mogg-a7459336.html

they are the "Red Tape" that stops us becoming "Singapore on sea"

and the Food Safety rules will have to be ditched to get a Free Trade deal wit the USA (as their standards are MUCH lower than the EU)

I don't suppose Mr Mogg is going to be able to pass them without the agreement of our parliament though is he.

I don't suppose Mr Mogg is going to be able to pass them without the agreement of our parliament though is he.
Then what is the point of Brexit ?

In theory the UK can 'keep' the laws as were set up by the EU and administer them themselves. HOWEVER the rumblings from the JRM and cronies camp suggest that they want a rather different regime and removal of various 'rights' that we have at the moment. Someone suggested 'workhouses' for the unemployed. Extend the zero hours contracts perhaps? The EU is at least a 'moderating' influence against such draconian measures. The idea that the UK can become a tax haven, obviously not for the 'common people' but as a method of increasing the wealth of those who already have a lot.

And I agree the good ones should be kept. Whats going to stop us keeping them when we leave?

Oh good grief, you want to keep EU laws but you voted to have the right to abandon them? The more arguments from Leavers I read, the angrier I get that I wasn't even allowed a vote. I'm coming off this thread for the good of my health.

Yes. Keep the good ones, adopt other people's, abandon some. It's not that mind boggling.

@Thecrabbypatty

The leave campaign stated that bad EU laws were a reason for leaving the EU. Nothing to stop us copying or potentially improving on EU law bit it's not a good reason for leaving.

abandon some
which ones ?

Kew my daughter is furious that she couldn't vote because she was 16, its her future that's at stake. She's now 18 and despairs at what Brexiteers have done.
As my husband says, this vote should never have been put in the hands of 'ordinary' people because most of the leavers really had no clue about any of it.
Thank god my older children voted remain, I'd have felt like I had failed as a parent if they'd done otherwise.

Human rights, employment rights, consumer protection rights, environmental protection... quite keen on those.

They won't be around much longer. Some of these Brexiters are going to find out that "We can keep the good laws" won't work that way in practice. They are pawns in a rich men's game.

Bellini you want you cake and eat it too. I have my Irish passport ready but I won't live in Ireland. I wonder why? If it's such a wonderful place why not live there?
It isn't an insult at all as it's a wonderful place.

Sounds like in March next year we are going to be living like The Purge or the Walking Dead.
I simply don't get it What's so bloody wonderful about the EU?
Why do you think we are going to be doomed without them?
It's shameful to me that you are so passionate about the EU and not the UK.

Whirly I cannot understand what I'm reading:

Kew my daughter is furious that she couldn't vote because she was 16, its her future that's at stake. She's now 18 and despairs at what Brexiteers have done.
As my husband says, this vote should never have been put in the hands of 'ordinary' people because most of the leavers really had no clue about any of it.
Thank god my older children voted remain, I'd have felt like I had failed as a parent if they'd done otherwise

How patronising "ordinary people" what a tosser. Ordinary people make this country work. Ordinary people are the back bone of this country. Just because you and your lot wanted to remain that doesn't mean your vote means more than mine.
17.4 million ordinary people decided to leave the EU. It's our future and our children's future too and we decided that enough is enough. We want and independent Britain.

"Yes. Keep the good ones, adopt other people's, abandon some. It's not that mind boggling."
Which ones do you want to abandon?

You have to keep in mind the 'major doom' scenario is if the UK crashes out without a deal. WTO rules are terrible (expensive and years to set up) and you would need a border between Ireland/NI. At present anything except remaining in the CU + SM REQUIRES a physical border in Ireland. BINO or cancellation of A50 are less crippling to the UK economy but too many 'boneheads' want out for reasons that no one can quite agree on. JRM and the ERG want as hard a Brexit as possible as they have taken their personal money out for 'safety' and are lining things up to make a massive amount more money when the Pound really crashes.

FACEPALM. Ihate I am passionate about the U.K, that’s precisely why I want to stay in the EU rather than see my country handed over to JRM and his disaster capitalist cronies. Jesus wept.
IME French and Italian people are passionate about their country- it’s not a case of choosing between your country and the EU. I know we’re not supposed to call Leavers thick but some of them make it very hard.