Remainders always start anti Brexit threads.

[Ihatemycar]

I've been reading Brexit threads and it's always the same people talking about how unhappy they are about Brexit.
I guess Brexit leave voters have no time to waste on forums.

Meh. We will just have to wait and see. I think some people are getting their kicks from the drama. When a prepping board got into appropriate weaponry to defend your stash I gave up all hope. No one has a crystal ball, leave or remain, so we will play the hand we are dealt and get in with it.

SoloD Leave has majority by a democratic vote. 1.3 million more

If we can't change the results of a referendum, then why are we leaving? We voted in, in the seventies. In won. Get over it and stop whining.

It's democracy.

So, Leave 'won' and are still not able to say what all the great benefits are:
Blue passports (made in France).
Sovereignty that you already had.
Massive debt (starting already but it hasn't ramped up yet).
Major industries/employers leaving the UK.
Long delays at ports and airports necessary due to customs checks.
Potential scrapping of the GFA 'no border' agreement.
Reduction of EU staff within the NHS.
Significant loss of financial trading services that were based in London.
Reduction in the numbers of EU citizens as the skilled 'mobile' workers will want to go somewhere where they will continue to be paid properly.
The likelihood of food shortages and definitely increased food costs.
A government so committed to the UK that they are taking their personal wealth and putting it offshore.
It will be like taking the union flag and popping it into a hot wash, the colours will run and it will shrink a bit.

@Ihatemycar

Imagine you go to a salesroom and they offer you a really nice car, with a 2liter engine, leather seats and a fuel economy of 55mpg.

But when you pick it up, it turns out to be a rust bucket 1.2 Austin Brexit which leaks oil.

Would you be "oh that's okay I agreed to buy the car and just because it's totally different to what I thought I was getting I still have to go through with this"

Clearly you are not that stupid so no you would not go through with the purchase and neither should this country.

It would be a good analogy Solo, except they didn't buy a really nice car with a 2 liter engine. They don't seem to know what they bought other than a car. And a car is a car. It could be a nice shiny BMW M6, with all the extras or it could be a rusted Ford Focus with no engine or wheels, propped up on bricks in someone's garden.

They voted to buy the car, they're buying the car no matter how obvious it becomes that the car is a dud. A car means a car. They want the car, they're getting the car. Someone else can take responsibility for finding a new engine and wheels.

I can see why we are in a mess because both sides think the other side is wrong

We are in a mess because Brexit is going to come at an enormous cost to our economy and our security.

The uncertainty, the waiting, the fear and the unknown. I'm tired I just wish we had a clear picture.

My heart bleeds for you. I can't begin to imagine the agonies Brexiteers are going through.

Helmet I'm good I haven't changed my mind about Leave. If anything I want to leave even more.
Can't you see how much the EU needs us? It's not a one way road here.
Specially they want our money.

I hate my car because it's a big German piece of crap that isn't what it was meant to be. I want a car that I can be happy to have.

I resent paying my taxes to a government that can then get over ruled by a totally unelected group of people (whose wages I also pay)

You're talking about the House of Lords, right?

Personally I voted for MEP and she has been very helpful in sorting out a housing problem for me - much more so than my MP who never replies.

Or maybe she means the judiciary as well as the House of Lords?

@Ihatemycar
If things are so bad you should Brexit now.
Swap your German car for an Austin Allegro. There are a couple of British car makers, Morgan being one of them although I think there is a long waiting list and they are quite pricey. Do not buy any food sourced from the EU and don't contemplate any holidays to the EU.
If your electricity is from EDF then cancel that. Arriva buses and trains are Dutch, keep away from them. The list goes on.

Kewqueue exactly, I don't like that either! Just because I don't believe in the EU doesn't mean that I think the UK system government is perfect either.

Can't you see how much the EU needs us?

Actually, no I can't see how twenty-seven countries as a group cannot manage without one country especially when those twenty-seven countries include Germany and France and those twenty-seven countries have been preparing for the departure of the single country for two years while the single country has been busy dragging its feet and passing the buck and tantruming like a toddler. Can you explain it to me?

To be honest I think this debate could go on indefinitely. Democracy has directed us to this point and I respect it. If remain had won I wouldn't be stamping my feet either because I truly believe in democracy, even if I don't like the outcome.

Some people need to grow the hell up, accept reality and not drone on about ideology. The European Union isn't perfect, the UK isn't perfect but we may as well make the best of it, we have no choice but to make Brexit a success.

Thecrabbypatty - but you seem to have missed the crucial point that we DO elect MEPS.

In any case, yot can hardly say that the EU has thwarted the UK's law-making: The British government has voted against EU laws 2% of the time since 1999. That's 98% us getting what we wanted anyway!

we have no choice but to make Brexit a success.

How? When just about everyone (including the government) is saying that it will make us all worse off for the next 50 years, how are we meant to make it a success?

Why do we have to make the best of a disaster, crabbypatty?

Can't you see how much the EU needs us

Could you be any more deluded?

If the EU 'needed' us they would have given in to our every whim.

They haven't, because they don't.

Could you send me a link to show how many of those laws directly impacted on or improved the lives of British people please?

A) You have no proof that it will be a disaster.

B) It sounds as if you are gleefully expecting chaos so that you can sit back, cross your arms and say I told you so. If it's going to be so much of a "disaster" how is that attitude going to help?

Could you send me a link to show how many of those laws directly impacted on or improved the lives of British people please?

Well no, because I cannot look up twenty years of legislation and produce impact studies regarding 65 million people. If you want to, you do it - it should take you a few years I should think. My (relevant) point is that you were complaining about the undemocratic nature of the EU despite the fact that the statistics show we pretty much got everything that our elected British representatives voted for.

You're really good, crabbypatty. How do you know what I sound like from behind the screen? It's kind of amazing.

A) You have no proof that it will be a disaster

The governments own reports say it will be an unmitigated disaster. That's why they're making contingency plans. They're stock piling food and medicine, ffs. If that's not proof the whole think is a shitstorm, I don't what is.

You have no proof that it will be a disaster.

Other than the fact we can't negotiate a deal so need to send out notices on how to deal with that out come, none of which contain any positives.