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Brexit

An open letter to leavers

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LoveInTokyo · 02/08/2018 12:54

Dear Leavers

I’m sorry that David Cameron offered us a referendum and promised to respect the outcome, whatever it was.

Unfortunately, he was fucking with you.

He promised that referendum when he didn’t think he stood a cat’s chance in hell of getting a majority, and never thought he’d actually have to deliver on it. When he got his surprise majority, he made a big show of going to Brussels and pretending to negotiate with the EU to get us a “better deal”. Unfortunately, he already knew perfectly well that the UK already had a better deal than any other country in the EU, and that they were not going to bend over backwards to get us to stay. So he made a big show of negotiating and then tried to pretend that he had done something meaningful. He then went through the motions of holding a referendum, half-heartedly campaigning to remain. He did absolutely no contingency planning, partly because he never believed that leave would actually win, and partly because he already knew that he had no intention of staying to deal with the fallout if they did. That’s why he resigned the day after the referendum and waltzed off, whistling a merry tune.

He played a high risk game of poker with our money, and lost.

I understand that many of you feel defensive about your decision and dislike being labelled “thick” by angry remainers. As a remainer myself, I feel saddened and frustrated that none of you seem able to articulate any benefits that will actually come out of Brexit. But at this stage, I would quite happily accept that there will be no benefits, and settle for damage limitation. Unfortunately none of you seem able to explain how we limit the damage either.

We cannot leave the single market and customs union without there being a hard border in Ireland, which will put people’s lives at risk. We cannot leave the single market and customs union without severely damaging most sectors of the economy, which would cause untold hardship for millions of people living in the UK. I realise that remaining in the single market and customs union would make leaving the EU pointless, but it is the only way to limit the damage.

The government has made almost no progress towards getting a workable deal in place, and time is running out. We don’t have the infrastructure in place to ensure that supply chains of essential food and medicine will not be disrupted after Brexit day. We don’t have a plan to ensure that planes will still be able to take off and land, or that satnav will still work. We do not have any trade deals lined up. We simply do not have time to do any of these things.

Dear leavers, you do not have solutions to any of these problems, and more importantly, neither do Theresa May, Boris Johnson, David Davis, Liam Fox, Nigel Farage, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Andrea Leadsom, Daniel Hannan, Jeremy Corbyn, Kate Hoey or any of the people who claim to think Brexit is the right choice for the UK.

A no-deal Brexit is unthinkable. It is not an option.

I realise that many of you will feel betrayed if we do not get the kind of Brexit you want. But to be honest, you’re going to feel betrayed even if you do get the kind of Brexit you want, because it will be unimaginably shit. This is not "project fear", it is "project reality".

The government has a duty to act in the best interests of the country as a whole. It’s not good enough to lay the blame at David Cameron’s door and say he held the referendum so we have to respect the vote. David Cameron has been out of office for two years. It is now plainer than ever that leaving the EU is a terrible idea, and there is still time to put the brakes on and not go through with it. If the government goes through with this when they could put a stop to it, they cannot continue to blame David Cameron and claim that their hands were tied. They are not.

It is time for Theresa May to do the decent thing and say, “I’m sorry, I know it’s what the people voted for, but it simply can’t be done without causing a totally unacceptable amount of harm to the country. And I have a duty of care towards everyone, not just the 51.8% who voted leave.”

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 05/08/2018 13:57

Do you have evidence of this corruption? How are UK officials any better?

Helmetbymidnight · 05/08/2018 14:02

I think if you’re going to argue that the eu treat the U.K. with utter contempt (and it’s not the first time I’ve heard it) it would be helpful to have an example or evidence.

An undefinable hauteur or power corrupts doesn’t really tell us anything.

LoveInTokyo · 05/08/2018 14:09

They're not our mates.

Says who?

You sound like the school bully trying to tell their weaker sidekick who they can and can't be friends with.

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derxa · 05/08/2018 14:13

You sound like the school bully trying to tell their weaker sidekick who they can and can't be friends with. That's hilarious frankly.

LoveInTokyo · 05/08/2018 14:22

Not really, I (and millions of others) have been dragged into an utterly pointless vendetta completely against my will.

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Rosstac · 05/08/2018 14:27

Because if they were are mates, they could see the UK might need a little bit of help and is going through a tough time and the kids are squabbling. A real mate helps it’s friends in a time of need especially as it’s been giving its mate loads of money over the years helping its mate to grow and establish, A REAL mate would do what it could help not turn its back on them because it’s got a bit of a domestic at home

Bearbehind · 05/08/2018 14:34

Seriously rosstac

Are you for real?

We are choosing to leave.

The EU are following their policies and procedures.

You just want to be treated like a special snowflake.

derxa · 05/08/2018 14:39

Look I wish we were staying in the EU but trying to pretend that the EU and its officials are whiter than white is ridiculous. We should move away from this 'four legs good' 'two legs bad' type of thinking.

Bearbehind · 05/08/2018 14:43

Who is saying the EU is perfect?

I don't know of 1 Remainers who think that is the case but all this 'the EU are bullies' is nonsense.

Helmetbymidnight · 05/08/2018 14:47

I don’t think the U.K. is being treated with total and utter contempt.
I just don’t get it.

otterturk · 05/08/2018 14:56

Oh piss off OP

LikeIDo1 · 05/08/2018 15:04

"Not really, I (and millions of others) have been dragged into an utterly pointless vendetta completely against my will."

Thing is you could say that in any democracy. There will always be the "other side" who aren't happy with the outcome. There were people who hated Thatcher or Blair and had to endure over a decade of their politics.

You can't please everyone.

Bearbehind · 05/08/2018 15:05

Oh piss off OP

A well reasoned and convincing argument from a Leaver there 😂

Talkstotrees · 05/08/2018 15:07

How is the EU treating us with contempt? We are leaving, they have asked us what kind of a deal we would like, we have (finally) told them, they’ve said our idea doesn’t work for them as it compromises their internal market. All the emotive words such as threaten, warn and bully are being used by our ‘side’.

UnnecessaryFennel · 05/08/2018 15:10

Because if they were are mates, they could see the UK might need a little bit of help and is going through a tough time and the kids are squabbling. A real mate helps it’s friends in a time of need especially as it’s been giving its mate loads of money over the years helping its mate to grow and establish, A REAL mate would do what it could help not turn its back on them because it’s got a bit of a domestic at home

Good grief. I can't believe you've actually written that.

One minute the Leavers are all 'we decided', 'we're taking back control', 'we're British, we can do this', 'we won'...and the next it's 'waaaah, they're being mean to us!!'

FFS. As you never stop telling us, THUR PEEPUL chose to leave. Chose. We have effectively been sticking two fingers up at the EU for decades (anyone remember 'Up Yours, Delors'?) and now we've had the tantrum to end all tantrums and you're STILL whining that they won't give us YET MORE concessions.

It's utterly fucking embarrassing. Frankly I wouldn't blame the EU if they did tell us to FTFO; we deserve it.

Moussemoose · 05/08/2018 15:19

The EU negotiators are doing their best to negotiate a good deal for their members. As they should, it's their job. It's not their fault they are really good and we are crap.

To continue the football analogy it's like complaining Real Madrid won't let your team score goals because their defence is brilliant. Of course they won't!

And the breath taking irony of the British calling other people arrogant is just too much.

mummabearfoyrbabybears · 05/08/2018 15:25

David Cameron promised us the vote if he was voted in. We voted him in. In a fair, nationwide vote we voted to leave. We were fine before the EU and we will be fine afterwards. All this scaremongering doesn't help anyone. Britain is a global power and trade with other nations aren't going to change. I doubt we'll even notice to be honest. I voted to remain if that's important.

Yaralie · 05/08/2018 15:30

LikeIdo1 says -"There were people who hated Thatcher or Blair and had to endure over a decade of their politics. "

The 48 million people who did not vote for brexit will have their lives and the lives of their children and grandchildren damaged forever - not just until the next election. This madness should be stopped.

BananaToffo · 05/08/2018 15:33

The extraordinary arrogance of many remainers is summed up perfectly in your presumptuous, patronising, pig-ignorant "letter" OP.

I second other posters....just piss off.

And no, you are not entitled to a reasoned, "intelligent" reponse since the lecture you delivered, without invitation, was neither of those things.

UnnecessaryFennel · 05/08/2018 15:35

mummabear, we were not 'fine' before the EU. We were the 'sick man of Europe'. We had been asking to join for a good while before we were able to and we joined because we were in a mess. As for being 'fine' after we leave, arch-Brexiteer JRM reckons it will be another 5 decades before we see any benefits.

Britain is a 'global power' to a very large degree because of its membership of the EU, not in spite of it. We are actually a small island nation, pretty divided, with a shrinking economy and a failing health service. Life is fairly shitty for an awful lot of people and Brexit is only going to make that worse.

As for 'I doubt we'll even notice', well words fail me.

Bearbehind · 05/08/2018 15:36

banana why are Remainers arrogant?

We're not the ones assuming everything will work out, without putting any effort in, simply because we think it should.

Accountant222 · 05/08/2018 15:39

Perhaps you should address your open letter to 'Dave' after all he gave the people the choice.

UnnecessaryFennel · 05/08/2018 15:39

What on earth is 'arrogant' about saying, this decision has the very real potential to make life much more difficult for an awful lot of people?

What is arrogant about saying, people were lied to?

TheElementsSong · 05/08/2018 15:40

"Indefinable hauteur" 😂