If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

[TistyTosty]

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

Thank you PF. Yes it was just so distressing. Spat on from a passing van. And it was a young white woman doing it.

Johnson/Gove/Mogg - it's all too ghoulish to contemplate, but that right wing authoritarian regime is stepping closer.

MrPan I am sorry for you, but unfortunately every country has its idiots, it does not represent the vast majority of the country

Remain then and remain now. I only know one leaver and she has changed her mind.

And the new major is doing so much better with all that blood on his hands

Can you elaborate?

Yes, I would definitely vote Remain again.

I hope there is a second referendum, but not before the Tories have torn themselves apart. Corn laws II - the sequel. This time it’s a shambles.

Helmetbymidnight He hasn’t exactly got to grips with the amount of killings in the capital, has he,

Ah yes, the mayor who slashed police numbers and budgets, I forgot that of course.

No, it doesn't represent the vast majority of the country...but the Brexit vote lead to a massive rise in racist attacks in it's aftermath...and I'd fear what will happen when UK actually leaves.
Brexit has reduced the level of tolerance, acceptance of difference, and general good behaviour - for enough people in that nasty stratum to feel 'licenced' to ask "Why are you still here?" .

We can argue Brexit with facts and research. But for many people facts and research doesn't matter. It's just misplaced belief and ideology.

Many of myblack and Asian friends have been racially abused since the ref.

It’s disgusting.

Helmetbymidnight People are quick to criticise one person and ignore the faults of overs, BJ was mayor from 2008-2016 at the height of austerity, there where not the numbers of fatal stabbing sad there has been, higher than New York, The Mayor of London is responsible for the policing in the capital, it is and has not been a safe place of late, Police numbers ar not vastly different form BJ last years as mayor, ( in London) I am no BJ fan by the way

So loss of 1/10 met police officers is having no effect on crime?

What is it that khan does/is doing then- can you elaborate please?

Well I'll tell you one thing.

Boris backed leave and Khan backed remain.

Boris encouraged everyone to vote for the thing which means (1) less money for public services because so much money is being lost from the economy / spent on Brexit, and (2) all the government's time and attention being focused on Brexit for the next decade instead of domestic issues such as policing in London.

Ross, the Home Office's own documents suggest that recent police cuts, during Khan's mayorship, have 'likely contributed' to a rise in serious violent crime.

In any case, the point I was making about Johnson as mayor was a very different one.

Helmetbymidnight He doesn’t appear or to be saying very little about sorting the problem

LoveInTokyo Well that’s ok then it’s acceptable the numerous deaths because he’s a remainer, nice to know how low people have sunk

poster DarlingNikita

The choice was between Boris or Ken "Hitler Hitler Hitler" Livingstone both times. Hardly a great selection.

Of course it's not OK.

What I'm saying is don't expect to have any extra time or funding devoted to policing or anything else of that nature in the foreseeable future. Brexit has put paid to that.

So if you voted leave, you can add yourself to the list of people to blame.

(My conscience is clear.)

There wasn’t as much crime before

Solo, no, I know. I wasn't trying to make the point about the choice of mayors though (or about their performance in terms of police and crime ); my point was in the specific context of the referendum and the appeal of people like Johnson and Farage, and was that Johnson, IMO, worked as a Leave figurehead partly because of his previous high profile as London mayor.

DarlingNikita His high profile didn’t work in London did it, clutching at straws I think, I don’t think Boris has the appeal you think he has, all ways comes across as a bit of a twat to be honest with you

DarlingNikita

Yes I agree, if Farage had fronted the campaign it would have had far less credibility.

No idea what you think that picture shows.

LoveInTokyo It’s just a report that states there are more police officers per head now then at any time

Well get used to more cuts because thanks to Boris and his mates everyone is going to have to "tighten their belts" to pay for Brexit.