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If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

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TistyTosty · 17/07/2018 11:52

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

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Nat6999 · 18/07/2018 08:03

I voted leave & would vote leave again.

I do think that the Government made a mess of the referendum, the terms of leaving & remaining should have been stated before we voted, at the moment it looks like starting a game & changing the rules as the game goes on.

I voted leave because we should have our right to make our own laws, decide who we want to trade with, allow farmers & fisherman to earn their living without EU quotas.

Before we joined the EU our manufacturing industries were the finest in the world, we had a transport network that was efficient & worked well, we didn't have the housing crisis we have now.

I want a country where my son & when he has children, they can have a choice of school & training to get the career they want, not be stuck in a series of minimum wage zero hours contracts, where they can have a home when they want one.

We used to be a proud nation that other nations envied, since we joined the EU it feels like we are a poor relation who can't do anything without asking big brother EU first.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 18/07/2018 08:04

britt

Honestly love youve got the wrong threads

Im not being funny at all but the brexit arms was completely different to westministers and was supposedly set up as more of a 'chatty reconciliation' thread

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 08:08

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TheElementsSong · 18/07/2018 08:10

Don't bother Rufus I doubt there will be an acknowledgement, let alone acceptance of error. Plus it's seriously funny Grin.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 18/07/2018 08:15

But i feel sad elements

Its like an episode of the office when you just sit there thinking 'mate....please stop'

ErrolTheDragon · 18/07/2018 08:15

I'd vote remain again.

So much damage done already though, and whatever the result of a second referendum the country would remain disunited.Sad

drearydeardre · 18/07/2018 08:16

of those eligible to vote (46,500,000) 37% voted to Leave and 34% voted to remain.
so ......the remain vote was not the will of the people either if you subscribe to that argument. There is no indication that those who did not bother to vote would have voted remain
At the end of the day - those who voted leave outnumbered those who voted remain.
I hope that is clear to the confused on here Smile

TheElementsSong · 18/07/2018 08:18

Its like an episode of the office when you just sit there thinking 'mate....please stop'

Grin
smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 08:22

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rocketpocket · 18/07/2018 08:32

I'd be inclined to still vote Brexit as it proves, to my mind, the anti democratic nature of it all. This is what I voted on in the first place. We have already voted. The decision has been made. The governments of the UK and EU didn't like it and seem to be purposefully bodging the job in the hopes that we can remain by another name.

To make Brexit a success the government of this country need confidence and balls. Both of which TM is massively lacking. She's the wrong person to lead these negotiations.

I'm so disappointed because I know it could be better.

Daddybegood · 18/07/2018 08:37

Remain then. Remain now
Encouraged by stories on the remainernow Twitter feed that many leave voters feel duped by the big red bus, Turkey joining, new trade deals and various other untruths.
Still very concerned that we are in a slow moving train smash with the only perceived benefit (to the very few) being that the offshore tax havens are retained for the ultra wealthy before the EU tax avoidance clampdown in 2019.
And am seething about:
Electoral law being broken
£300m made by Crispin Odey on sterling's collapse based on insider info
Alleged Russian influence through mr. Banks
The threat to NI
Innocent EU citizens living here and UK citizens in EU being used as pawns
D.Davis turning up for only 4 hours negotiation work in 6 months
Cameron, Farage, Boris and Davis all resigning- they own this debacle
Paying £38b and likely ongoing payments - money that could have been spent on nhs
Losing our veto and becoming a vassal state - giving away control
Losing our right to live, study, work and retire in another European country
The nhs losing good nurses and doctors from the EU - they saved my dads life

Basically, I just don't understand this far right enthusiasm for Trump/Brexit the latter being more damaging to the vast majority if UK citizens

StrangeLookingParasite · 18/07/2018 08:43

we should have our right to make our own laws

YOU NEVER LOST THIS!

Gah.

StrangeLookingParasite · 18/07/2018 08:43

Fucknuckles.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 18/07/2018 08:47

Manufacturing in the U.K. was destroyed in the 1980s due to the Tories love of sell offs, neo liberal globalised economics. Not the EU.

Housing is in crisis due to insecure renting - see the housing act 1988 and council house sell offs. Nothing to do with the EU.

ADarkandStormyKnight · 18/07/2018 08:49

offshore tax havens are retained for the ultra wealthy before the EU tax avoidance clampdown in 2019.

Exactly. The people who will benefit from Brexit will be those who can protect their assets while taking advantage of looser protections at home for employment, benefits etc.

Nat6999 · 18/07/2018 09:02

Rocketpocket I wish there was a like button, what you have said is the real truth about why Brexit isn't going to work if Theresa May has her way, she doesn't want it to work.

The right way for it to work would have been for a committee from all parties to hammer out the negotiations & for the last two years since the referendum not to have been wasted, the day after the referendum was when we should have started to start working on how it was going to happen, not nine months before we leave.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/07/2018 09:08

The right way for it to work would have been for a committee from all parties to hammer out the negotiations & for the last two years since the referendum not to have been wasted, the day after the referendum was when we should have started to start working on how it was going to happen, not nine months before we leave

Jaysus. They created a ministry for Brexit ‘working’ for nearly two years led by David Davis you’ve had leading Brexiteers in key roles in cabinet, but no, that’s not enough for you... don’t you get it? Brexit is not going to be easy, they can’t do it without the country suffering. What do art of that don’t you understand?

Helmetbymidnight · 18/07/2018 09:10

Brexiteers had forty years to come up with solutions, it’s absolutely bizarre to blame non-Brexiteers for the shit you voted for.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 09:11

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smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 09:16

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headinhands · 18/07/2018 09:18

Headinhands your contemptuous reference to "a photocopier repair man from Ruislip" epitomises the sneery snobbery of the arch remainer.
Attitudes like yours are the reason that Leave won and would win again

Not sneery. Unless you're an expert in macro economics you and I are both hypothetical photocopier repairman. Being asked to cast dice on issues that we haven't got a working knowledge of. Yes some Mp's were leavers but the majority of fiscal experts told us leaving the eu would cause loss of jobs to many, many people.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/07/2018 09:22

People were conned. Its good they are waking up.

That liar, David Davis said this: “Within minutes of a vote for Brexit the CEO’s of Mercedes, BMW, VW and Audi will be knocking down Chancellor Merkel’s door demanding that there be no barriers to German access to the British market'

That liar, Gove, said that Turkey would soon be in the EU. (He's said he regrets it).

That liar Boris never stops fucking lying about anything.

They all actually sound quite plausible in interview.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 09:22

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Helmetbymidnight · 18/07/2018 09:27

It's unbelievable.

The thing is, they've never even really pretended to care for the average working person, yet brexiteers thought, oh yeah, the economists, the scientists, the academics, the civil service, the business community, the Mp's, oh yeah, they know fuck all, its farage and boris, Jacob Rees Mogg, Davis and Gove who actually will take care of our interests best.

It fucks me right off.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 09:29

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