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If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

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TistyTosty · 17/07/2018 11:52

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

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MsAnnThropic · 17/07/2018 22:56

Yes. I voted remain and would again.

BrittW · 17/07/2018 23:05

Actually, Rufus, before it became Westministenders that thread was The Brexit Arms - all welcome, but again we saw that Remainers could only converse by sneering and goading.

TheElementsSong · 17/07/2018 23:09

Actually, Rufus, before it became Westministenders that thread was The Brexit Arms

Actual LOL Grin

Good grief!

downinthejunglee · 17/07/2018 23:14

I voted leave and yet I still would

Amalfimamma · 17/07/2018 23:17

I voted remain.

I would now vote leave and encourage all my, remainer, family and friends to do so.

Rochelaise18 · 17/07/2018 23:32

BrittW I would expect that the person who started the threads would know which thread was before each one they started as none of the first 2 before being called Westministenders (all started by the same person who started calling them Westministenders) were called The Brexit Arms. But, if that's what you want to believe, carry on, no one's going to change your mind no matter how much proof they post.

KennDodd · 17/07/2018 23:40

Voted Remain, with some misgivings, would wholeheartedly vote Remain now, I just want it all to end and life get back to normal.

TheElementsSong · 17/07/2018 23:41

no one's going to change your mind no matter how much proof they post.

Hey, be fair, they’re doing great work providing lighthearted comedy Grin

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 17/07/2018 23:58

Yes. Voted Remain and would again

Not convinced Remain would win by a landslide I think it would be 48/52 to Remain I wouldn’t be hugely surprised if Leave won again especially if Boris is PM

Mookatron · 18/07/2018 00:04

The electorate is different now. Youth vote was always remain and lots of EU citizens have felt forced to naturalise due to worries about being able to stay in the same country as their kids etc.

adviceonthepox · 18/07/2018 00:05

I feel angry that so many lies were told by both sides in the referendum campaign. Politics is bloody disgusting. Most people who I know that voted leave didn't have a clue what they were really voting for. Anti Eu bullshit, border control Sad and saving the nhs. I'm pretty sure most of them didn't want the shit show they are getting now.
I would vote remain again. It's never going to happen though. Rough times ahead people Angry

LoveInTokyo · 18/07/2018 04:13

I voted remain and would vote remain again.

Slightly mystified by people who claim they voted remain last time but would vote leave in a second referendum “because of the way the EU has behaved during the negotiations”.

How has the EU behaved, exactly?

The UK government tried to trigger Article 50 without parliamentary approval and got slapped down by the Supreme Court for violating our own constitutional law. They then triggered Article 50 with apparently no solid plans in place and started the clock on the two year negotiation period. They then wasted four months calling a general election, losing their majority, bribing the DUP to prop them up and having a cabinet reshuffle. Theresa May put someone who fundamentally does not understand how the EU works or what the single market is (David Davis) in charge of DExEU. She put an arrogant, offensive, ignorant buffoon with no respect for other countries or cultures (Boris Johnson) in charge of the Foreign Office. Someone who has publicly come out with such gems as “the EU can go whistle” and “fuck business”.

Meanwhile, the EU has repeatedly asked the UK to come up with a credible plan, particularly in relation to the Irish border issue. And all the UK government has done is repeatedly come up with half-baked, nonsensical proposals which look like they were written by a not very bright GCSE government and politics student and which essentially boil down to “we’d like to have some cake and we’d also like to eat it”.

I am quite frankly amazed that seemingly intelligent people who claim to have voted remain think that the EU is being unreasonable by not simply allowing us to have all the good bits of EU membership without any of the obligations, or by prioritising the needs and concerns of its remaining member states (particularly Ireland) over those of the member state which has chosen to leave.

How are they being unreasonable?

What exactly do you think they should have done, or not done, in order to meet us halfway?

Swizzlegiggle · 18/07/2018 05:10

Yes I would absolutely 100% vote remain again.

Whatsnewwithyou · 18/07/2018 05:29

Yes, remain. Both of my parents voted leave but have told me they would now vote remain. They feel they were duped by the bus and I feel really bad for them as they blame themselves and others like them who were lied to.

TheElementsSong · 18/07/2018 06:03

people who claim to have voted remain think that the EU is being unreasonable by not simply allowing us to have all the good bits of EU membership without any of the obligations, or by prioritising the needs and concerns of its remaining member states

I find this mystifying too. Would love one of those posters to actually provide details rather than these vague empty slogans.

The only explanation I’ve been able to come up with myself is that, in the end, it boils down to “Don’t They Know Who We Are” “Because We’re Worth It” English exceptionalism.

damaged · 18/07/2018 06:52

Yes.

Remain all the way.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 18/07/2018 06:55

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headinhands · 18/07/2018 07:07

Remain then. Remain now. Have here been any polls. I guess we'd never know if any real majority have changed their mind unless there was a real vote. I'm left feeling so cynical that even as a remainer when I here people saying they voted leave but would now vote remain I'm suspicious it's a remainer trying to push for a new vote. I dunno. It's all a big mess.

I do feel awful for May. An impossible task. Trying to listen to the economic experts (who could foresee all the trouble) but also trying to please voters who made a bad choice.

I'm still not sure, why, when we elect people to take the time to listen to experts and know more stuff than we can, in order to make good decisions, that they then got a photocopier repair man from Ruislip to make such a huge financial decision for millions of people. It's stupidity.

I feel most of it comes down to this hatred of experts. A war on reason. It's insanity!

frumpety · 18/07/2018 07:11

Voted remain and would do so again.

Only 26% of the UK population actually voted Leave. I personally believe that the UK Government has a duty to all its citizens.

How long will it take us to negotiate trade deals if we leave the EU with no deal ? How many of the countries we already trade with as part of the EU are going to give us exactly the same deal or better ?

MercedesDeMonteChristo · 18/07/2018 07:28

Totally agree with the poster who said it so much better than I did, the EU haven't actually behaved badly at all.

And actually, all of the very solid reasons already stated. I like being part of the EU, I feel European as well as British and English and other non EU european state Leavers are scared of. I want to be part of something bigger.

No one is suggesting that we be one big happy family, how many actual families adhere to that. The point is be able to hold each other to account, negotiate with more power and support each other when necessary.

chicaxe · 18/07/2018 07:45

Headinhands your contemptuous reference to "a photocopier repair man from Ruislip" epitomises the sneery snobbery of the arch remainer.
Attitudes like yours are the reason that Leave won and would win again.

frumpety · 18/07/2018 07:46

How many of the countries who we already trade with on WTO rules as part of the EU are going to think that the UK leaving the EU would be a good time to renegotiate those deals for their own advantage ?

Helmetbymidnight · 18/07/2018 07:49

So some people voted Brexit because some people who voted remain annoyed them?

Is this the argument?

So they didn’t actually want Britain to leave the eu? They didn’t want to tank the economy, they didn’t want to jeopardise gfa, or food and drug supplies? They just wanted to stick it to a snob?

Oh dear. This really doesn’t sound very ...um...bright.

PostNotInHaste · 18/07/2018 07:56

BrittW, I take it you’re a fan of Jackanory?

frumpety · 18/07/2018 08:01

The EU has just signed a massive trade deal with Japan , when the UK leaves the EU , how is that going to impact car production in the UK , given we will be trading on WTO rules , the average WTO tariff for cars being 9% ?