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Westmistenders: 'No Deal please; We're British'

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RedToothBrush · 12/06/2018 16:09

It has to be said that its almost as if Tory Rebels are too polite to challenge the PM.

But the stakes are getting higher and higher as it becomes more and more apparent that it is a clear choice between a chaotic no deal situation or a BINO and there is no alternative to that.

If the Tory Rebels don't show their grit and are not prepared to be as strong in their determination as the Brexiteers - out of almost politeness and obligation - then No Deal awaits.

As things move forward, the threat to May once again re-emerges too. If May doesn't do what the ERG say they are minded and will try to oust her. They have nothing to lose by it.

The Tory knives are hidden behind backs one again. Waiting.

Which way will the Withdrawal Bill go? Which way will the Trade Bill later this month go?

We are running out of time and options: for either a deal or no deal.

Time has already run out for many ordinary people - they just might not know that yet, but the decision has already be made about their future.

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DGRossetti · 15/06/2018 17:56

It should be called "choping" in his honour

It's what social media was invented for.

We need some Choping memes. I wonder if James Corden could introduce it to the US ?

woman11017 · 15/06/2018 18:00

And here is something else team Davies and Chope did.

Westmistenders: 'No Deal please; We're British'
Westmistenders: 'No Deal please; We're British'
TheElementsSong · 15/06/2018 18:00

The North-East England Chamber of Commerce consulted with manufacturing businesses about their preparations for Brexit

Where is that from BigChoc?

annandale · 15/06/2018 18:07

The Legend of 'Sir' Christopher Chope, pattern of chivalry

'Ah, Sir Christopher!' cried King Arthur as his trusty knight bowed before him. ' What news from Christchurch, pray?'

'Marvels I bring you, my liege lord,' averred the good old man. 'Once more the dragon Grieve Amendment has been driven from these shores, and my squires are even now constructing a wondrous drawbridge, with which we may rub the Frenchies' noses in their isolation by heaving it skyward to the Chope warcry, Leave! Leave! But before I tell more of this, a gift - have a gander at this upskirt limning of the tender flaps of Queen Guinevere as she carelessly descended the great stair of Camelot...'

Chortling, the ancient knight pulled from his armour a fine vellum, failing to notice the increasingly ruddy colouration of the cheeks of his king...

Dobby1sAFreeElf · 15/06/2018 18:16

I've had to step away from my phone for a while after the upskirting story broke in case I flung it. I still can't express my anger without a full range of expletives. I may also need to borrow a few foreign ones.

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2018 18:48

elements The business survey referred to in

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/business-news/north-east-businesses-look-relocate-14762169
by
https://www.neechamber.co.uk/updates/chamber-news/north-east-businesses-supported-to-prepare-for-brexit

is currently only available as the screenshot I posted

54321go · 15/06/2018 19:00

@Dobby.
No, you are on the way out of the EU now so please stick to Anglo Saxon expletives. Hang on didn't the Angles and the Saxons come from 'across the water'?

54321go · 15/06/2018 19:02

So now it is 'trousers all around' ladies.
How does this fit with those Scots and their wearing of kilts?

Dobby1sAFreeElf · 15/06/2018 19:14

54321 I can borrow some commnwealth ones though right? Or is Australian the best I can get? Grin

prettybird · 15/06/2018 19:35

Scotland already has an "up-kilting" law Grin (which includes up-skirting Wink)

woman11017 · 15/06/2018 20:25

Worried tories on whatsapp. Concerned about marginals............(after the coming pre snap GE NHS bung too.....)

Westmistenders: 'No Deal please; We're British'
BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2018 20:38

They don't seem disgusted at the principal of what he did,
merely alarmed at possible electoral consequences

Icantreachthepretzels · 15/06/2018 20:41

There isn't really going to be a GE is there? My nerves couldn't stand it... there's surely not time for one before their summer hols start. And they won't call one before the party conference.
So please tell me there couldn't be one before October?

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2018 20:42

Foster + Partners (award-winning UK architecture & engineering firm) considers leaving UK over Brexit

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/news/foster-partners-considers-leaving-uk-over-brexit/

Less than a quarter of the staff at the firm’s London headquarters are UK nationals, and Foster + Partners are concerned about the reduced draw London will have on the best architectural talent when the UK leaves the EU.

“If Brexit means we can’t attract world talent then we would have to go to somewhere where we can."

< note: the only comment on this article, on Global Construction Review, not exactly the Scum: "good riddance" >

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2018 20:49

We have to hope for Nirway+

If there is no deal, or Parliament rejects a poor deal like CETA, then this could lead to a GE in early 2019.

If Parliament chickens out and there is no-deal Brexit, then expect the govt to collapse, once civil order does, following rationing, mass lay-offs etc

I wonder if Tory Plan B is for Corbyn to narrowly win a GE just before Brexit,
hence Labour to be blamed for the disaster, maybe their narrow majority collapsing within a couple of years,
so the Tories win, staying in power as long as MrsT, to demolish the remnants of the Welfare State

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2018 20:53

David Davis personally blocked plans to give parliament more power over Brexit following a “crescendo” of protest from the Tory right wing, The Independent understands.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-david-davis-uk-eu-parliament-tory-theresa-may-mps-a8401166.html

Mr Davis is said to have told Theresa May he would not accept proposals giving MPs sway over the government’s actions in the event she fails to agree a deal with Brussels.

It now sets the scene for a major showdown in the Commons next week,
where the rebels are likely to face a tough decision on whether to force their proposals on Ms May – inflicting a damaging defeat on their party leader.

AndSheSteppedOnTheBall · 15/06/2018 21:09

The government is gambling on the rebels backing down (or enough of them backing down).

This is getting really depressing now. I’m starting to wonder whether I should sell my house while the market’s strong in my area.

woman11017 · 15/06/2018 21:37

Or is Chopegate another Friday night dead cat, like bojo's ''leaked speech" last week.? Whatever, it's a all a dispiriting and dangerous mess.

RedToothBrush · 15/06/2018 22:09

No I don't think its a deliberate dead cat. But its rather useful all the same.

order-order.com/2018/06/15/read-tory-mps-whatsapps-christopher-chope/Imagine being the most unpopular person in the Tory Party.

Apparently Theresa is on Marr on Sunday but no one is supposed to know.

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TheElementsSong · 15/06/2018 22:18

Thanks for the links BigChoc Smile

HesterThrale · 15/06/2018 22:28

Choping becomes a thing... Caitlin Moran tweeting about it.
(Wonder what his 28 year old daughter thinks of his action?)
Unfortunately he's got a 25,000 majority, so he's not going anywhere unless he decides to retire.

mobile.twitter.com/caitlinmoran/status/1007702235738931201?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Icantreachthepretzels · 15/06/2018 22:43

I wonder if Tory Plan B is for Corbyn to narrowly win a GE just before Brexit,
hence Labour to be blamed for the disaster, maybe their narrow majority collapsing within a couple of years,
so the Tories win, staying in power as long as MrsT, to demolish the remnants of the Welfare State

I think you're giving them credit for a level of Machiavellian cunning that they just show no signs of having, there Smile

woman11017 · 15/06/2018 22:51

@Byline_Media
Barnier: "on the 30 March the UK will be automatically withdrawing from 750 international agreements, Euratom, Europol, the European Defence Agency, and trade agreements. This is irreversible even if there is a 21 month transition period." #Vandalism

gulp

Icantreachthepretzels · 15/06/2018 23:03

Barnier has been saying it is irreversible forever ... literally everyone else in the EU keeps saying the door is still open to reverse it, or extend article 50 (Varadkar was talking about that earlier).

The Express is currently running a headline about ... I shit you not... 'THE TYRANNY OF PARLIAMENT'
So first EU oversight was tyrannical.
No parliamentary sovereignty is tyrannical.
So the only form of govt the Express thinks is non-tyrannical is decisions made by an executive that cannot be question or challenged... or you know - actual tyranny.

Fortunately, the Express is so dire that I believe the only people who read it are people who can't actually read so...

(Their outrage yesterday that the EU was making plans for a new shipping route between Ireland and the continent that would BYPASS Britain post brexit was hilarious. What do they think they voted for? What do they think they are advocating? It is a paper so terminally stupid that I am amazed its staff manages to get it written and published... because not only can they not write - I'm not convinced they can tie their shoe laces.)

woman11017 · 15/06/2018 23:21

True^ Icanreachthepretzels and no, they're not bright enough to organise Chope/davies debacle.