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Ever closer to Brexit! 🥂 🍻 🍾

Remainers are welcome, as ever.

But!

If you just want to abuse Brexiteers, then start your own thread.

This is a pub thread, not an interrogate-a-Brexiteer thread

We have more in common etc, even if Brexit divides us.

@Quiet

london But NONE of that has actually happened

Unfortunately, it's actually already happening.

No Mummy, you are pathetically missing the point. There will still be a London banking market, but it will be a smaller market, with smaller profits, and smaller taxes paid.

This is not some airy-fairy idea put about my nasty, evil remainers as project fear - it is what will definitely happen, as has been agreed by everyone except the Quitlings, who are well aware that they are lying.

Quiet I understand your reasons for voting leave. I have never said you were racist.

The EU has no role to play in the UK's immigration rules for non EU immigrants.

I do not recognise the figure of 65% of regulations are made in Brussels. Whether or not regulations are "shite" is a matter of experience and opinion unless you can evidence that view.

It is indeed difficult to recruit from outside the EU. That is due to the UK Govt legislation and is currently resulting in the NHS being unable to appoint doctors because the UK Home Office has reached their own imposed limit of work visas for the month.

Another one for me was 65% of regulations are made in Brussels.

Not sure where you get that figure from?

A thorough House of Commons study showed that for the UK 6.8% of primary legislation and 14.1 % of secondary legislation had a role in implementing EU law, compared to various political speeches alleging as much as 75% without quoting any serious source.

www.ceps.eu/system/files/Britain’s%20Future%20in%20Europe_0.pdf

JWIM we had to prove to we couldn’t find any one in the EU and Switzerland that could fill his role after advertising it for s considerable amount of time.

Prove to whom, and why? Is it an EU imposed or UK imposed immigration requirement?

I have just looked at the points based UK immigration system for non EU immigration and can see no reference to first having to seek employees from the EU/Switzerland.

Also, immigration rules are matters for national governments and not within the ambit of the EU.

JWIM we had to prove to we couldn’t find any one in the EU and Switzerland that could fill his role after advertising it for s considerable amount of time.

Quiet, think this is just a misunderstanding. That's nothing to do with the EU, it's the UK home office that requires companies to prove that it can't recruit locally.

The reason the EU is mentioned is because it is illegal for employers to restrict recruitment to just British nationals (with some narrow exceptions where there are national security considerations). But it's the UK government and its strict visa allocation rules that prevents companies recruiting from outside the EU.

Moving outside the SM. CM....
But the money we don't pay out can be used to help with a recovery...
And no I don't thing it will be done overnight.
What I do think is that in 10 years people will see we were right to leave.

I have buisnesses and at times are strangled by red tape. We’ve just had enough of it.

What "red tape" in particular do you want to get rid of, and are you sure that the red tape in question is EU red tape and not British red tape? Pretty much any issues you might be having with overseas recruitment are purely a UK problem and nothing to do with the EU.

Leaving the EU is unlikely to result in "bonfire of regulations" because any trade agreement will require both parties to stick to agreed rules on for eg product and safety standard issues, and to prove compliance, so as to create a level playing field.

For exporting businesses, leaving the single market will dramatically increase red tape (in the form of customs administration, rules of origin requirements, compliance certification etc).

The same thing everyone who ever divorced recovered from..... splitting your assets....

So Mummy leaving the SM and ?CU will result in a UK economy that will need to recover and this may be over a 10 year (you think) period. How will the 'money we won't pay out' (however you choose to measure the UK contribution to the EU) help with the UK recovery? Approx 1% of current UK GDP goes to the EU. What level of reduction in the UK economy would be acceptable to you.

I feel we may be moving away from the leave campaign assertion of an instant positive outcome for the UK on leaving the EU.

Example of EU rule one size doesn't fit all.
There is a nest that is rare in EU..
It's a common Newt in UK....
We have to box it in on building sites to protect it's habitat...
The EU agree there is no need to protect it here but it's a rule that can't be changed...

Instant wealth is project fear again.....
Leavers k ow change costs..... But it doesn't mean it's forever...
It's worth any price to leave......

Mummy you are wasting your time with these zealots.

Pull over a bar stool and we can have a British pint

Hey I know...
Only an idiot doesn't thing you end up losing assets when you get a divorce....

There’s no magic money tree...

Prefer cider...
Have you had a good day?
Sunny here people out doing gardens...

It was the leave campaign that said the UK economy would benefit if the UK leaves the EU. There will be Free Trade Agreements with many countries and this will boost UK trade. Now it seems that the UK economy will have a decline and need to 'recover' but 'it's worth any price' for Mummy.

Do other leavers agree it is 'worth any price to leave'?

The Great Crested Newt is an endangered species in the UK. Stanley Johnson (previously UK MEP), father to Boris, was involved in having this UK newt added to the endangered species list. It is not common in the UK and rare in the EU. It is rare in the UK and the UK asked for it to be a protected species.

Brexit was supposed to make Britain wealthier and help the “left behind”. I love how leavers expectations have been reduced to reclaiming some belongings from the brexit wreckage.

Jwim - yes I agree with money that it is worth almost any price to leave.

Money is no reason to sell the nation to the eu

Ghost of - don’t you have course work or something else to do? Must be exam time soon at college surely?

Just catching up on my Daily Express revision in a vain attempt to understand leaver logic.

Just bought a brexit calculator. It has no buttons but at least it’s red, white and blue

Sell the nation to the EU? 😂

Gosh. What a load of twaddle.