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Remainers are welcome, as ever.

But!

If you just want to abuse Brexiteers, then start your own thread.

This is a pub thread, not an interrogate-a-Brexiteer thread

We have more in common etc, even if Brexit divides us.

london
11.23

12.11

First one is we’re you suggest financial loss and the second - you directly address me as you tag my post then answer it with untrue allegations.

At 11.12 you tag my post - directly addressing me again and accuse me of being in cahoots with Putin

london I’m not engaging with you any more as your posts are unhinged. Your accusing me of exactly what your doing. It’s weird.

Hi mummmy What is coming true please?

That cracks are apprearing in the EU now trade is part of the deal.
27 countries don't all need the same thing.

@Quietlife1979 Defensive gibberish.

mummmy - I haven’t heard about any cracks appearing. I was under the impression that the EU27 were in agreement re UK deal so far. Perhaps you could provide your source? Thank you

But I proved you to be lying on this thread london.

What financial loss????

You said you didn’t engage directly - you did multiple times which I’ve just pointed out.

You just like to hate people london you actually know very little about leaving the EU apart from the fucking bus.

Just wait Trees... they are there. You think 27 countries all want... need the same thing.... good on you for being so positive about the deal.

Just wait Trees... they are there.

The rest of world, not just the EU are either perplexed or laughing at Brexit.

Just to make it clear the UK is leaving the biggest and most prosperous economic trading in the world at a time when the US and China have embarked in a trade war.

Yes.Yes we are...

But....
The EU percentage of trade is dropping...
We are not go in to be penniless. We will recover and we who voted wanted to be our own boss not an EU State.

*But I proved you to be lying on this thread london.

What financial loss????*

Are you crazy @Quietlife1979? You don't even understand what "proof" means.

Anyway, this has been discussed so many times, I guess no harm in going over the numbers one more time. Let's look at the impact of the loss of passporting. About 30% of the financial services generating over £70B in taxes relies on it, so we are talking ca. £20B in tax being at risk.
But let's be very conservative and just look at the projected job losses: 40000 jobs lost in the City, say 100k comp on average - £4B lost to the economy, including about £1.5B in immediate income taxes. That's just the first order effect. The most pessimistic estimate is 200k jobs lost I believe - £7.5B lost in income tax.

All the while the government propaganda tube BBC is trumpeting a £3M investment in the Luton Vauxhall plant :D

Surely the positive thing about the UK and Brexit is that it doesn't matter what the EU27 countries are individually planning with regard to their own EU member state status or the current or future level of the EU budget? The positive thing about Brexit is that it is good for the UK regardless of what may or may not happen to the EU.

I would rather hear from those who voted leave the positive outcome(s) for the UK (preferably actual/factual rather than 'feelings') rather than a negative perception of what the EU and the EU 27 may or may not be doing.

Mummy - "we will recover" - from what, and why?

Guestimates ... that means the figures are based on nothing but a guess ....
Unto the end you just don't know....
How come people are renting buying office space in London......

Still interested in what it is we will recover from Mummy? What is going to happen that will require the UK to recover? Any idea when this will happen, how long it (what happens that requires the UK to then recover) will last, how we will recover?

So many questions, sorry, just want to understand the positives.

Unto the end you just don't know....
How come people are renting buying office space in London......

1. But we do know, and jobs have been lost already, still at just a moderate pace because of the significant likelihood of BINO

1. It's true that there is uncertainty, but what does that make BFJ talking about money for the NHS or Brexit dividends? One of the top-ranking politicians within the Tory party is a blatant liar.

How come people are renting buying office space in London......

What do you mean? Is another one of those "it's not a Mad Max world yet" comments? What about this for example?

www.fnlondon.com/articles/credit-suisse-plans-exit-from-canary-wharf-office-20180105

Bankers are a special case even when they lose they win.....
Someone will always find a way as a banker to turn profits... hence why they are taking out office space...
Yes there w/o be losses. But also gains it is never one sided... But till the ink is Dry this guessing game is very pointless.... more project fear on the remain side...

The banks will continue to make profits. But they will continue to make them in the EU, where they will pay their taxes.

Of course, there will be other opportunities for the UK FS - there will be a bigger market for tax avoidance schemes when we don't follow the EU tax avoidance measures that are coming in, oh gosh, just two days after we're due to Brexit.

Funny how the leading Brexiteers will be the ones profiting from that...

Your missing the point Cardinalsin.
There are profits to be made in the UK... banks may go but others will take their place....
There is too much money in it for them to not want a slice of a UK market....
There will be wins in all this... But we don't know yet as it's Not sorted...
And anyway... it is already happening so remain can't stop it....So why be all down on everything. It must make life hard for you.

london But NONE of that has actually happened though as it... just like the sky didn’t fall down the day after the vote. Your hysterically pushing that projection down people’s throats like it’s already happened - it hasnt, it’s just speculation. Sorry

JWIM why do posters cherry pick out of posts? I also said in that post there were many reasons I choose to leave but ultimately I had to go with how I felt about it as both sides were compelling.

1. centralised power was my main point why I wanted to leave. Small economies do not flourish under huge centralised powers. Powers should be spread out evenly - like what we are trying to do here with devolution (kind off) The laws Brussels make are too uniform and the one size doesn’t fit all when it comes to different countries, communities. There are many huge areas like London and the cities that flourished but there are also smaller countries or areas that are really struggling under rules that do not benifit them. We are much freer . I honestly believe if we were decentralised and used local power more we could achieve so much more growth.

I have buisnesses and at times are strangled by red tape. We’ve just had enough of it.

Another one for me was 65% of regulations are made in Brussels. Ridiculous regulations. So when one regulation shows up to be shite, they don’t scrap it - they just add another one. So more and more regulations and red tape made by men that don’t even live in the same country as me. Directly influencing my business.

I’m not racist, I am not white. Even though because I choose to leave posters on here think I am !

Are you aware how hard it is to come and work here if your from out of the EU? We have finally managed to get a chap from India over ( after the EU tried to block it at every turn) who is one of the corner stones of my buisness. It was not easy. Not easy on him or his family. This guy is not a leech and pays shit loads in tax but why should I have had do the shit I had to because the bloody EU said I basically couldn’t hire who I wanted.

Your very bitter about it all...
Most people just want it sorted . And don't care anymore... or so the polls say...

So what will we be recovering from? Why will we need to recover Mummy

hence why they are taking out office space...
You must have misread the article. Yes, the are taking out office space. In Frankfurt, Paris, Dublin and Warsaw.

It's a big mistake to take a burgeoning London financial industry for granted. Up to the 80s, you know - back in the sick man of Europe days, before we joined the EC - there was relatively little banking in London, and Paris was the main European financial centre...