Westminstenders: Exit 2020 Vision

[RedToothBrush]

Yet it is a great mistake to suppose that the only writers who matter are those whom the educated in their saner moments can take seriously. There exists a subterranean world where pathological fantasies disguised as ideas are churned out by crooks and half-educated fanatics for the benefit of the ignorant and the superstitious. There are times when this underworld emerges from the depths and suddenly fascinates, capturers and dominates multitudes of usually sane and responsible people, who thereupon take leave of sanity and responsibility. And it occasionally happens that this underworld becomes a political power and changes the course of history.
Norm Cohn ‘Warrant for Genocide’ 1970

(As referenced by Nick Cohen).

We have a deal (or bits of a deal). Bino til Dec 2020. Then the cliff?

Still a long way to go. It sounds better than it could be. But worse than it initially seems.

*TomR
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It originally came from the LibDem press office too I think.

twitter.com/sheehanshas?lang=en

Farage was on the EU Fisheries Committee and only bothered to turn up for one out of 42 meetings. The CFP was ill thought out and the discard policy ridiculous. But Farage made no attempt to reform it.
Additionally, the UK government(s) sold licences to foreign-owned trawlers - true, they could do this under EU rules. But they didn't have to. The fishing community says it was destroyed by the EU, but in truth it was by their own governments and their elected representative Farage.

They got that warrant yet?

Sorry, see that someone already made the point about the fisheries.

I think know it served Farage's purposes to ensure that the EU fisheries policy remained problematic. It wouldn't have helped him if it had been reformed, nor for him to make it clear that many of the problems that UK fishermen were having were down to Westminster rather than Brussels

Borntobequiet - it doesn't do any harm for it be emphasised and re-emphasised and emphasised again

I explained that the EU wasn't necessarily the bad guy in fishing policy, complete with links (and I don't think I was the only one), in the last thread (might have been the one before as we're going through them so quickly) but it seemed to have gone over some people's heads.

I’m not sure if this is the same urgent question:

mobile.twitter.com/EdwardJDavey/status/976070951233294336

So no commitment from Hancock to do anything about it, and an attempt to minimise the whole thing IMO.

Documentary film made sympathetic to Remain. Needs lot's of cinema tickets sold and you tube views to make it to TV. You might want to add writing to your local cinema asking that they screen it to the letter writing list.

www.imdb.com/title/tt6290122/reference

Ah - I have an interest in fisheries - in a previous existence I part owned and worked a little inshore trawler...happy (but impecunious) days...after I LTB I got the kids, he got the boat.

Looks that the question was..

If evidence emerges that any organisation misused people’s data to interfere in any UK election or referendum.

But the q was asked before the programme came out. So the question needs to be asked again.

Thanks, lonely and mybrain.

I feel rather vindicated in my long held hatred of FB

Is it me or is the BBC focussing on the role of Facebook, rather than CA and most importantly the culpable political parties (or movements) that engaged CA's services?

No, it's not just you

They got that warrant yet

@DavidLammy
Why did Information Commissioner tell the world that she is going to court and seeking a warrant to search Cambridge Analytica's office? Giving CA and Facebook a warning to delete files, servers and evidence?

@woman11017

Still trying an hour ago. No warrant yet.

Ed Davey was who I asked last month about Cambridge Analytica and investigating troll farms with regards to Brexit!

Thanks olivia I see.......

Definitely not just you thinking that lonely.

I caught some of ITVs news and they covered it a lot better and in a lot more depth than BBC did too.

I also caught an interview with the Information Commissioner in that ITV news and it sounded to me like she wasn't happy at the little support they're getting. However I'm not sure it was the best idea to announce she was seeking a warrant.

Interesting letter from the Lords to Dotard David Davis. Has a tough tone.

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-committees/eu-select/Correspondence-2017-19/20-03-18-draft-withdrawal-agreement-letter-to-Rt-Hon-David-Davis.pdf

Seems those unelected, elitist, out of touch, freeloading Lords are more on the ball (and industrious?) that the elected lot.

I think the same re BBC coverage of CA.

The editorial policy at the Beeb has definitely tilted. The only exception being the World Service ( introduced to that by menopausal insomnia, then got more and more hooked on their weekend and daytime coverage.)

The Today programme has been my primary news source for almost four decades. I can still remember the slight frisson of shock at hearing the presenter( Brian redhead probably) utter the word'condom' when the tombstone AIDS campaign began.

Now I can hardly bear it and Humphreys is a disgrace. I heard him savage some completely innocuous interviewée on a light topic ( wish I could remember details) a few years ago. It was a nasty listen.

World at one similar. They filled a precious slot last week with a stupid item interviewing primary children about Brexit. I kid you not.

I suppose that is what serves for balance these days.

I’m assuming they don’t mean a structure used for storing grain but I don’t know what else that might mean

iain watson
@iainjwatson
Party sources suggest the silos between the #labour leaders office and HQ are likely to be dismantled with a new gen sec backed by Jeremy Corbyn in place

@Cupofteaandtoilet

Completely. That letter is very detailed and content rich.

They're doing their job well. I have a new found respect for the Lords.