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UK cannot afford no deal
We’ll have to accept whatever is on offer

For 2 intelligent people both of you are being incredible Stupid.
As in you have a brain and won't' use it.

No deal is still on the table, to be blackmailed for years and years, made to tow the line, bow and scrap to the EU...

OR jump and sort it all out.

It's not normal circumstances, and people who can do and will have seen the paper work say it's won't be as bad as we think, that it can be done. They are not MN crusaders, but professionals who say should it happen then Ok.

What part of no deal bringing UK to a standstill and therefore not being an option don’t you understand?

David Cameron and project fear would be so proud of you, you do know there is a new militant remain group you can join....

The governments own impact report stated Brexit would have a negative impact on the country.

We all agree it would have an impact, but I just don't agree with the way you state it as if it will be a never ending dive to the bottom, never to end and never to see any chance of a recovery EVER.

mummy if no deal was a viable option we’d need to be making plans for it now

We’re not doing anything because we know it isn’t going to happen

DD even had the audacity to moan about the EU saying it had plans for no deal as it undermined British business

His bluff was well and truly called then- we have no intention of walking away

I repeat if we can't agree on a deal due to too many differences, what do you think will happen?

Maybe you have a pocket full of fairy dust that can stop that happening. As many leading industrialist are saying it COULD.

I’m giving up mummmy

I’ve said numerous times I don’t think we will ever reach a situation where we walk away.

We will just have to accept whatever deal is on offer.

Only time will tell which of us is right but my thoughts are based on facts not feelings.

We all agree it would have an impact, but I just don't agree with the way you state it as if it will be a never ending dive to the bottom, never to end and never to see any chance of a recovery EVER.

"Ever" is a long and indefinite time. So how many years of "impact", (aka recesssion, loss of industry, trade, agriculture, jobs, rising food prices, huge administrational burden, declining tax take and so on, on top of the manifold problems we already have) would you deem to be acceptable? There are plenty of peope who can't manage now, so how long should they be expected to put up with all those additional burdens?

I think others have addressed this by asking as to the possible benefits of Brexit. Comes down to the same thing.

FEELINGS are you not as able as myself to read the papers and listen to what is being said...

People with money who run multinational companies are making statement that they can't see how the EU and the UK will be able to agree a deal in time,

And all you keep saying is We will just have to accept whatever deal is on offer. No we don't we can say NO deal... We have that option...

I'm just feed up with Remainers saying we have to cave that it's are only choice, it's not.
Once you face up to this point, then I can drop this stance, but until in your minds you can see as MANY other people can, who do have access to financial information. urh the Bank of England, then just maybe you can see while it's not what is wanted IF Barnier still says he will insert the punishment clause and Mrs May can't accept it and we run out of time, then the NO DEAL option will be the one that comes into play.

Has Mummy "No Nasty Word" 2017 managed to answer my question yet?

@mummmy2017, what exactly would you like Barnier to concede to that would not violate EU rules and be unfair to EU27 members?

Also interesting that user never came back to describe what a 'compromise Brexit' would look like.

Also interesting that user never came back to describe what a 'compromise Brexit' would look like.

They'll be back posting when they think you've gone ...

vaguely reminds me of an ex colleague who for some reason had a bee in his bonnet about Polish people. One of his tropes was that England owed Poland nothing - in fact it should be the other way round, as we had to fight WW2 for them.

First time, I mentioned the fact that there one London landmark (thanks to traffic reports) is The Polish War Memorial (by the A40, where RAF Northolt was/is). He'd (obviously) never heard of it, and had to admit that he was wrong.

A few weeks later, I overheard him having exactly the same bitch to a new employee.

On holiday so having to jump in and out of mumsnet.
Which brexit was a cmpromise
Norway style, EFTA or Swiss model?

Could say us being in Eu, as with Denmark was one long comprise.
No Euro, No Scenleign borders for us, opt out galore, rebates constantly renewed.
Just so we could say we where in.
So can't see why Eu27 can't given us equally bespoke deal to leave.

Also agree, that different Eu countries seem to say different things. Lets see what Mrs May says in 3 weeks and the reaction to it.
Can I say hope we finally see a new devolved government in NI.
First step to sorting NI/ Ireland situation.

But user you're doing exactly what every other Leaver has always done; expecting the entire compromise to be on the side of the EU.

You want the elusive 'cake and eat it deal'. Carry on with the deal we have but with the added benefit of saying we're out and not adhering to any of the parts we don't like.

That's not going to happen.

Any compromise has to be on both sides.

What do you think Leavers are willing to concede on?

So London we go, to please you...

After all he can't and we won't compromise.

Instead of trying to tie us to what is, they should have been sorting a new trade deal between the EU and the UK, rather than cobbling to a mishmash that doesn't seem to work anyway.

mummmy your argument is utterly ridiculous but a perfect demonstration of why we are where we are.

When will you and your fellow head bangers comprehend that we already have the best deal possible with the EU.

We cannot keep all the parts we like and lose everything we don't like.

That would compromise the integrity of the EU and mean that all 3rd countries were entitled to he same.

We have to compromise.

We have to decide what we are prepared to concede on in order to opt out of FOM.

When is that very simple fact going to sink in?

When will you see Barnier's stance means we will crash out with no deal.

It's as plain as the nose on your face, that as you say HE CAN'T move in anyway.

When will you see Barnier's stance means we will crash out with no deal.

I'll never see I because it's simply not true.

What good would crashing out do?

Everything would be on worse terms than it is now and businesses / instituations couldn't cope with it because we've made no arrangements to do so.

Why are you so insistent that crashing out is preferable to compromising with the EU?

I keep saying no deal as no way to compromise..

urh not sorting us a deal.

And if he can't and won't change and we won't give on no SM and no CU, then we should just walk and give business and chance to plan,