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Bear, Agnes
Most of the swiel eyed loons have been here since Major's time
Theres 650 votes in parliament, sensible moderate leave policy based on North's flexit, proposed by both sides could have easily been voted through.
The bulk of country and Mp's happy
Swiel eyed loons sidelined.

By the way reading North's blogs and other moderate leavers convinced we could make it work
But I am naive
No life is one long comprise, so Brexit was always going to be one for both sides.
Sadly both sides extremes leave and remain, won't comprise for the good of us all
It is stupid

Also its only on here that people still divide themselves up.
In rl around us anyway, we are all uk citizens try to make a living and hoping the politicians don't f××k it up

Sadly all sides are
Which is dangerous to everyone leavers and remainers
At this rate we are all going to lose.
Avoidable and deeply maddening

Sadly both sides extremes leave and remain, won't comprise for the good of us all

But "remain" is an absolute stance. How can it be "compromised".

Whereas "Leave" is (as this thread and other show) all things to all people.

There can be no "compromise"

We return to the absolute lunacy of the referendum. A referendum which was explicitly held for the benefit of the Tory party, not the UK. Not even England.

If nothing else Brexit has kiboshed democracy for generations. No one will ever be able to manage with a 49/51 majority in anything again.

Sadly both sides extremes leave and remain, won't comprise for the good of us all

I'm going to try and approach this from a different angle to try and demonstrate why 'compromise' isn't that easy.

Remainers don't want to leave so anything short of full on jump off a cliff Brexit is a compromise to them of varying degrees depending where we end up.

Leavers generally don't want to be shackled to the EU in any format if at all possible.

How far are they willing to go to compromise though?

Regulatory alignment is going to have to exist if we want to continue trading with them but that's a step too far for many Leavers.

Staying in some form of customs union, at a price, is the only way we can hope to achieve 'frictionless trade' and no border in NI but the head bangers don't want that.

We are 'leaving' in some format, the compromise as I see it has to come from the Leave side- full on hard Brexit or something more sensible and pragmatic which might actually work.

What kind of Brexit do you see as a 'compromise' user?

What kind of Brexit do you see as a 'compromise' user?

Blue passports ?

So if we can't fly to EU then they can't fly here... it's not all just one way.

No unfortunately that would not be an option and of course flying to the US and flights from the US could also be off the cards . Now I have no plans to get on a plane to go on holiday in the next couple of years , I might buy something that has been made elsewhere or that was made here using materials from elsewhere though , you seem to be forgetting the huge amount of air freight that would be effected by not having a open skies agreement .

www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a20630

Shamelessly nicked from another thread

user most MPs were Remain at the Referendum, but the majority have decided to support the result, hence triggering Article 50. A heap of swivel eyed loons are in the cabinet attempting to drive policy, and the reaction to anyone being pragmatic (like Hammond) is to denounce them as traitors and call for them to be sacked. And of course there is May, who is (“and let me be clear”) completely out of her depth, and an opposition who are notable by their lack of any kind of opposition to anything.

How do you suppose any sort of rational debate can take place when the swivel eyed loons shout traitor and are cheered on by the Mail?

Barnier is getting feed back that not all the EU27 want the Hardline he is promoting, as countries are beginning to realise it will cost them as well as us, but Germany and France are going to back him and push for no movement, no compromise anywhere.

So if we want NO SM and NO CU, then we just walk, why sit and shout about it.

So if we want NO SM and NO CU, then we just walk, why sit and shout about it.

I genuinely don’t know why you keep asking / saying that mummmy

The very fact we haven’t done it already is your answer- we can’t.

You really are going to expect us all to believe that all the planes are going to be grounded. Remain and sand again.

mummmy if you are so convinced we can just walk away- why haven’t we done it already?

We’re not getting want we want. You keep insisting everything would sort itself out, so why haven’t we done it?

Bear it's won't we can't it's we don't want to but could if we have to.

Something you fail to realise even if it is a remote possibility, even the EU acknowledged that it could happen. So what do YOU know they don't.

How can you say ‘we don’t want to’ when you constantly insist that’s exactly what we should do?

Your the one saying it , CAN'T happen, I am saying if the EU won't give anything , won't negotiate, then what else is there?

If Britain walks away do you realise how much tax payers money will have already been wasted working on implementation of transition, civil service etc?

Yes mummmy, Brexit is a significant risk for UK airlines.

But don’t take our word for it - just do the tiniest bit of research on the industry for yourself.

A range of outcomes is possible, but it will be a disaster if no replacement for the existing traffic rights regime is negotiated before the UK leaves the EU in Mar-2019. It could also be a disaster if the UK's participation in EASA does not continue.

centreforaviation.com/insights/analysis/the-great-brexit-aviation-debate-a-transition-deal-is-needed-to-avoid-disaster-for-uk-airlines-380522

mummmy I’m not going to change my mind on the fact I think it cannot and will not happen unless you or someone else prove me wrong.

We cannot afford to pull the trigger on something that could virtually destroy our economy.

You might be naive enough to think ‘it’ll all work out’ but businesses need time to adopt change, it can’t happen over night.

Leave won based on voters emotions and feelings. Jumping off a cliff edge to WTO would have to be based on facts and the facts just don’t support it.

Hey so half the trade deal work is already done...
Sorry , but it's not what I want it's what could still happen if what Barnier insists happens becomes unacceptable to the PM, her hands are rather tied you see, as she has said things as well, and if she doesn't do certain things then how else do you think this will play out?

Mummy, are you starting to see what a small player UK is in this? UK cannot afford no deal.

if she doesn't do certain things then how else do you think this will play out?

We’ll have to accept whatever is on offer and the whole thing will have been a massive waste of time and money to end up in a worse position.

If the is no deal, then it has to happen this way,
Which bit of the above statement do you not understand about the word NO in the deal bit ? The N or the O!

Which bit of ‘there will never be ‘no’ deal’ do you not understand?

We simply cannot afford to allow that to happen.

What part of no deal bringing UK to a standstill and therefore not being an option don’t you understand?

Sorry xpost