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That post makes no sense mummmy

Totally agree driven

I just can't get my head round mummmy and the rest of the extreme Leavers thinking the big FU will work out better than accepting we can't have our cake and eat it and agreeing a compromise position.

It's like the choice between having to have low fat cake or starving to death.

well listening to you lot and your it can't happen , we know how Bully Banier is thinking.

IF there are unsolvable difference on both side, just what do you think is going to happen.. come on say , say the thing that is smacking you in the face like a wet fish..

Here's a clue There will be ** deal.

Then why did the Bank of England say we can survive if it becomes a no deal?

The EU have already proved when DC went asking for concessions to put before the UK to stave of the Referendum that they don't give a dam about the UK.
They don't seem to have changed their views in the last 3 ish years, and if they have nothing to offer, then why are we even bothering to talk?
Lets just pack up and walk away, save time and let business make plans to deal with what will be.

There is a huge difference between 'surviving' and 'living comfortably' or 'prospering'

Why do you think walking away will be better than compromising?

You keep going on about Barnier being a bully but not one thing you've mentioned is unreasonable.

Leavers just see the fact we can't have exactly what we want after we've left as punishment.

It's pitifully arrogant.

Lets just pack up and walk away, save time and let business make plans to deal with what will be.

Ahh, so you want 'no deal' plus time for 'businesses to make plans to deal with what will be'

This level of delusion is simply staggering.

So is your absolute refusal to realise that no deal is still in MRS MAY'S bag of options.

Ok, for the purposes of this conversation, because this is going nowhere, I'll agree it is possible.

Why would we do it?

How do we benefit from no deal as opposed to a compromise on us wanting to keep everything we have now without FOM or without paying for access.

Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Well either is an option. As is cementing your head in a microwave. At least one of those options is potentially harmful beyond comprehension though.

I wonder what Mrs May would do?

No deal isn't about benefits. it's about if it all goes arse upwards, then we can carry on, we can still trade, and then we start for a different position.
I know it scares you, but everyone feels the same, but you can't say things won't get sorted, as they will have to be, and fast.

No deal isn't about benefits. it's about if it all goes arse upwards, then we can carry on, we can still trade, and then we start for a different position.

Except you can't carry on because no deal would bring UK to a standstill.

I know it scares you, but everyone feels the same, but you can't say things won't get sorted, as they will have to be, and fast.

Yes, which is why there will be a deal, however shit.

GhostofFrankGrimes much as you would like this to be impossible, you can't keep pretending, people are making plans just in case, and the UK won't be at a complete standstill, that is a Remain poster quote...

I'm sure businesses are making plans, no deal would reflect terribly on the UK as a destination in which to operate, also with an inept government.

It's literally pointless discussing this with you mummmy

You are completely incapable of providing a coherent argument for your stance.

Even if I concede no deal could happen, you simply can't argue the case for why it should.

'It'll be fine' isn't a strategy.

No deal wouldn't mean the UK was at a complete standstill, it would be going backwards.

Is Mummy a Daily Express headline writer do you think? She seems to post in simplistic and antagonistic certainties without the slightest whiff of thought behind them.

I think your wrong there GhostofFrankGrimes, countries will see the EU as heavy handed and vindictive, hard to trade with as they have to get 27 places to agree any deal.

The Uk will be seen as a young emerging market to trade wiith, and deals will be available to make, Australia have said they want to trade, and the Swiss are delaying their negotiations with the EU as they are making more gains outside the EU than inside. It's foolish be believe countries will shun us, when we have the 5th largest markets for trade in the world...

I don't see how the rest of the world could see the UK and its disjointed stance on Brexit as good nation to trade with.

As others have said look how the attempted trade deal with UK-India turned out for a window into the future.

Other countries are looking at the UK as a mug ripe for the taking. They will be willing to do trade deals with us, but they will not be on advantageous terms for the UK as they would have been for the EU. Indeed, the US have made it very clear that any improvement on trade terms will be at the cost of the NHS and chlorine washed chicken (however much the Brexiteers are denying that).

@mummmy2017 EU as heavy handed and vindictive,

No, they will see them as well trained skilled negotiators, because we are not at school. Good negotiators get the best deals. They will be impressed by the EU getting a good deal.

@mummy2017 in her truly incredible ignorance happened to get something right for once: "The Uk will be seen as a young emerging market".

Yep, we might soon become an emerging market, one of the.characteristics of which is (Wikipedia):

Intermediate income: its PPP per capita income is comprised between 10% and 75% of the average EU per capita income.